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Google uses Angular quite a lot already. Pretty much all internal tools (bug tracker, code review, release tooling etc) is built with it. There's also a number

Google uses Angular quite a lot already. Pretty much all internal tools (bug tracker, code review, release tooling etc) is built with it. There's also a number of public facing apps like GCP Cloud Console and the Gemini web app. Wiz has historically favored performance over ergonomics in the extreme. None of it is open source, and to be honest even if it was it's unlikely most people would want to use the mix of Java+Soy+JS+jQuery-ish API. Interestingly both frameworks are around the same age (if you count Angular 1.0), but Wiz was kept internal. What Sarah is referring to is both a big shift in Wiz to get modern ergonomics and a shift in the framework strategy to avoid having two entirely separate frameworks.

skybrian 3y ago
There is also AngularDart, which is a fork. But it’s been a while since I left Google and I don’t know how much it’s used nowadays.
troupo 3y ago
> Wiz has historically favored performance over ergonomics in the extreme. This unsubstantiated claim is being paraded around by Googlers all over Twitter. And there's literaly nothing to back up this claim. Have you seen the extreme performance of the websites it apparently powers? Here's Youtube's extreme performance: https://twitter.com/dmitriid/status/1770911027766370648 https://twitter.com/dmitriid/status/1770911027766370648
- nebula8804 3y ago
  That thread was amazing to follow. I got a chuckle at the end. These engineers are responsible for the fates of a lot of people outside of Google as well because of how many companies have adopted their tooling (like my company). They should be challenged to defend their views in the real world. If they are good ideas then it shouldn't be a problem.
- finnthehuman 3y ago
  lol. lmao even.
- zapzupnz 3y ago
  The engineers congratulating each other on writing slow, awful bollocks reads like AI-generated NPCs in a real bad video game.
- Menu_Overview 3y ago
  Yea, but look at how fast that 11MB loads.
montgomeryburns 3y ago
Any tips on preparing to work with Wiz as an incoming intern. I heard its identical to Stimulus: https://stimulus.hotwired.dev/ https://stimulus.hotwired.dev/

skybrian 3y ago

There is also AngularDart, which is a fork. But it’s been a while since I left Google and I don’t know how much it’s used nowadays.

troupo 3y ago

> Wiz has historically favored performance over ergonomics in the extreme. This unsubstantiated claim is being paraded around by Googlers all over Twitter. And there's literaly nothing to back up this claim. Have you seen the extreme performance of the websites it apparently powers? Here's Youtube's extreme performance: https://twitter.com/dmitriid/status/1770911027766370648 https://twitter.com/dmitriid/status/1770911027766370648

nebula8804 3y ago
That thread was amazing to follow. I got a chuckle at the end. These engineers are responsible for the fates of a lot of people outside of Google as well because of how many companies have adopted their tooling (like my company). They should be challenged to defend their views in the real world. If they are good ideas then it shouldn't be a problem.
finnthehuman 3y ago
lol. lmao even.
zapzupnz 3y ago
The engineers congratulating each other on writing slow, awful bollocks reads like AI-generated NPCs in a real bad video game.
Menu_Overview 3y ago
Yea, but look at how fast that 11MB loads.

montgomeryburns 3y ago

Any tips on preparing to work with Wiz as an incoming intern. I heard its identical to Stimulus: https://stimulus.hotwired.dev/ https://stimulus.hotwired.dev/