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Why do you think almost zero users are affected by this change? If a business was built on hosting redis or providing managed redis, that company is now inviabl

Why do you think almost zero users are affected by this change? If a business was built on hosting redis or providing managed redis, that company is now inviable, no? note: I am not disagreeing with the license change, just asking why you think nobody is affected.

vineyardmike 3y ago
If a company is built on hosting redis - and is now unviable, they should be pretty incentivized to fork the previous version and maintain it themselves. Isn’t that the power of open source? I doubt there were many (if any) non-AWS businesses that were affected. To earn a profit you need to continue to work, I don’t feel bad when a corporation is negatively affected after their leeching or rent seeking is disturbed. Even if it was previously acceptable behavior.
- cebert 3y ago
  > “ I doubt there were many (if any) non-AWS businesses that were affected.” Momento is likely impacted.
- gramakri2 3y ago
  But that is not what I am asking though. The OP is saying almost 0 users are affected and this is not true.
tejasbaldev 3y ago
That's exactly the point. Companies providing managed services on top of popular opensource projects are not contributing to the respective OSS project at the scale at which they've been benefitting commercially from these projects.
- jen20 3y ago
  Aiven is a good example - I don’t know if they contribute to Redis, but they appear to offer a managed service based upon it.
- gramakri2 3y ago
  Not sure what exactly the point is. The OP is saying almost 0 users are affected and this is not true. I was only saying that the license change affects quite some people. Whether rightly or wrongly is not mine to debate (I have nothing to do with redis!).
  - Dylan16807 3y ago
    > I was only saying that the license change affects quite some people. Affects them how? The number of businesses providing managed redis is very small, isn't it?
arp242 3y ago
"Almost zero", not "exactly zero".

vineyardmike 3y ago

If a company is built on hosting redis - and is now unviable, they should be pretty incentivized to fork the previous version and maintain it themselves. Isn’t that the power of open source? I doubt there were many (if any) non-AWS businesses that were affected. To earn a profit you need to continue to work, I don’t feel bad when a corporation is negatively affected after their leeching or rent seeking is disturbed. Even if it was previously acceptable behavior.

cebert 3y ago
> “ I doubt there were many (if any) non-AWS businesses that were affected.” Momento is likely impacted.
gramakri2 3y ago
But that is not what I am asking though. The OP is saying almost 0 users are affected and this is not true.

tejasbaldev 3y ago

That's exactly the point. Companies providing managed services on top of popular opensource projects are not contributing to the respective OSS project at the scale at which they've been benefitting commercially from these projects.

jen20 3y ago
Aiven is a good example - I don’t know if they contribute to Redis, but they appear to offer a managed service based upon it.
gramakri2 3y ago
Not sure what exactly the point is. The OP is saying almost 0 users are affected and this is not true. I was only saying that the license change affects quite some people. Whether rightly or wrongly is not mine to debate (I have nothing to do with redis!).
- Dylan16807 3y ago
  > I was only saying that the license change affects quite some people. Affects them how? The number of businesses providing managed redis is very small, isn't it?

arp242 3y ago

"Almost zero", not "exactly zero".