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I understand that making a good app is hard, and don't want to undermine your effort, but $150 for a todo app... ouch.

by apetrovic 3y ago

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jbverschoor 3y ago
With no guarantee about future pricing models
kjkjadksj 3y ago
Right like an editor and text is mouse free too and I can grep it with regex or sync it anywhere and have it on any device too.
kareemm 3y ago
Pay no mind to this guy/gal. S/he's not your ideal customer. $150 once for an app to organize your work and personal life is a screaming bargain.
- lukefreiler 3y ago
  Just because they don't feel the price is right/competitive doesn't automatically write them off as not your target market/ICP - it could still be very valid feedback, especially when competitive options may be cheaper. Personally I pay less than 1/2 the sub rate they're charging for TickTick Premium, and love it. That's not to say I wouldn't pay double for what it gains me (I definitely would), but given that TickTick is a viable option - I don't need to.
  - kareemm 3y ago
    If you organize your life using a todo app then $8/m is not even worth thinking about. It's 1.5 coffees.
  - drcongo 3y ago
    TickTick looks pretty nice, and doesn't seem to be Electron. Thanks, gonna trial it now!
    - drcongo 3y ago
      Update: subscribed to premium already, this is great. Shame they don't offer family or team plans.
      - lukefreiler 3y ago
        Hope you enjoy - I've been on it for a few years after bouncing around a variety of tools and I really have no major complaints. My main concern is risk of eventual bloat, but so far it hasn't been an issue. I feel like it does a good job of letting you pick and choose what you want to use, hiding the rest. Side note: although TickTick supports notes, I don't use them. I dig UpNote, another not-super-well-known but simple, cross-platform, and inexpensive tool. It's basically the feature-set I wished Evernote stopped at (super subjective, maybe too simple for most here).
dimensi0nal 3y ago
And that's not even a perpetual license with updates.
graypegg 3y ago
I am (personally) alright with this model. $150 is on par with OmniFocus Pro [0] which I've gotten easily more than $150 of value out of. (Including prior purchases of earlier versions, and similar price points.) With todo apps, I don't really expect the same sort of constant on-slaught of features like I do from other things. I expect it to continue to work and get out of the way. I expect the price to reflect the fact there was a lot of upfront work to get it "done" to a level where I can just use it. [0] https://www.omnigroup.com/omnifocus/buy/ https://www.omnigroup.com/omnifocus/buy/
- busterarm 3y ago
  Right, but by choosing to go keyboard-focused it's competing in a space with very feature-rich Vim and Emacs plugins (and users who want to work out of those) that are free. Even the Sublime users have lots of options already. Sublime is ALSO a very capable text editor and $100.
  - graypegg 3y ago
    Fair, though I do think there's value you might be discounting here that ISN'T keyboard shortcuts. The market isn't all vim/emacs users, it's complex Omnifocus-style todo app users, who are frustrated with the lack of keyboard support in those apps. These users are more comfortable with this price point than you may expect (IMO) but will need feature parity for things like OmniFocus perspectives/floating timezones/easy outlining. A CLI app is not something I would want to use for something I touch every 30minutes, every day, from many devices. But I do use vim for text editing.
    - busterarm 3y ago
      I'm not saying the market isn't there, I'm just saying don't act surprised when you get very valid criticisms expressing sticker shock. Emacs users have Org Mode and MobileOrg and can store the sync data somewhere they have full control over.
    - lycopodiopsida 3y ago
      OF keyboard support is fine - and I say it as an ex-emacs and current neovim user who works in terminal. It does not look that stellar but is well thought out and I am faster with kb in OF than I was in org-mode.
drcongo 3y ago
$150 for an electron app. I was considering holding my nose about the Electron part as I've been desperately trying to find a todo app that meets my needs, but damned if I'm going to subscribe or pay $150 for one.
- bonestamp2 3y ago
  Which cross platform solution would they have had to use to get your $150?
  - willdr 3y ago
    For $150 I want a native app
  - drcongo 3y ago
    I don't need a cross platform solution so that's really not my problem.

I understand that making a good app is hard, and don't want to undermine your effort, but $150 for a todo app... ouch.

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jbverschoor 3y ago

With no guarantee about future pricing models

kjkjadksj 3y ago

Right like an editor and text is mouse free too and I can grep it with regex or sync it anywhere and have it on any device too.

kareemm 3y ago

Pay no mind to this guy/gal. S/he's not your ideal customer. $150 once for an app to organize your work and personal life is a screaming bargain.

lukefreiler 3y ago
Just because they don't feel the price is right/competitive doesn't automatically write them off as not your target market/ICP - it could still be very valid feedback, especially when competitive options may be cheaper. Personally I pay less than 1/2 the sub rate they're charging for TickTick Premium, and love it. That's not to say I wouldn't pay double for what it gains me (I definitely would), but given that TickTick is a viable option - I don't need to.
- kareemm 3y ago
  If you organize your life using a todo app then $8/m is not even worth thinking about. It's 1.5 coffees.
- drcongo 3y ago
  TickTick looks pretty nice, and doesn't seem to be Electron. Thanks, gonna trial it now!
  - drcongo 3y ago
    Update: subscribed to premium already, this is great. Shame they don't offer family or team plans.
    - lukefreiler 3y ago
      Hope you enjoy - I've been on it for a few years after bouncing around a variety of tools and I really have no major complaints. My main concern is risk of eventual bloat, but so far it hasn't been an issue. I feel like it does a good job of letting you pick and choose what you want to use, hiding the rest. Side note: although TickTick supports notes, I don't use them. I dig UpNote, another not-super-well-known but simple, cross-platform, and inexpensive tool. It's basically the feature-set I wished Evernote stopped at (super subjective, maybe too simple for most here).

dimensi0nal 3y ago

And that's not even a perpetual license with updates.

graypegg 3y ago

I am (personally) alright with this model. $150 is on par with OmniFocus Pro [0] which I've gotten easily more than $150 of value out of. (Including prior purchases of earlier versions, and similar price points.) With todo apps, I don't really expect the same sort of constant on-slaught of features like I do from other things. I expect it to continue to work and get out of the way. I expect the price to reflect the fact there was a lot of upfront work to get it "done" to a level where I can just use it. [0] https://www.omnigroup.com/omnifocus/buy/ https://www.omnigroup.com/omnifocus/buy/

busterarm 3y ago
Right, but by choosing to go keyboard-focused it's competing in a space with very feature-rich Vim and Emacs plugins (and users who want to work out of those) that are free. Even the Sublime users have lots of options already. Sublime is ALSO a very capable text editor and $100.
- graypegg 3y ago
  Fair, though I do think there's value you might be discounting here that ISN'T keyboard shortcuts. The market isn't all vim/emacs users, it's complex Omnifocus-style todo app users, who are frustrated with the lack of keyboard support in those apps. These users are more comfortable with this price point than you may expect (IMO) but will need feature parity for things like OmniFocus perspectives/floating timezones/easy outlining. A CLI app is not something I would want to use for something I touch every 30minutes, every day, from many devices. But I do use vim for text editing.
  - busterarm 3y ago
    I'm not saying the market isn't there, I'm just saying don't act surprised when you get very valid criticisms expressing sticker shock. Emacs users have Org Mode and MobileOrg and can store the sync data somewhere they have full control over.
  - lycopodiopsida 3y ago
    OF keyboard support is fine - and I say it as an ex-emacs and current neovim user who works in terminal. It does not look that stellar but is well thought out and I am faster with kb in OF than I was in org-mode.

drcongo 3y ago

$150 for an electron app. I was considering holding my nose about the Electron part as I've been desperately trying to find a todo app that meets my needs, but damned if I'm going to subscribe or pay $150 for one.

bonestamp2 3y ago
Which cross platform solution would they have had to use to get your $150?
- willdr 3y ago
  For $150 I want a native app
- drcongo 3y ago
  I don't need a cross platform solution so that's really not my problem.