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I think at this point, they should stop making it video “cards” but rather video “stations”, a full tower station with power supply and one giant “card” inside

I think at this point, they should stop making it video “cards” but rather video “stations”, a full tower station with power supply and one giant “card” inside with proper cooling, etc., might also justify the crazy prices anyway.

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ufocia 3y ago
Probably better to stick to the GPUs. Integration is a low margin game.
- caycep 3y ago
  granted, at this point we plug the computer into the GPU, so it might not make a difference...
- georgyo 3y ago
  I'd prefer they stick to GPUs, but I think you're over simplifying. Dell proves that selling complete units is very profitable. Apple shows that owning the entire stack is immensely profitable. Nvidia already has significant hardware and software investment. They very well could fully integrate and grab larger slices of the pie. In fact, Nvidia already has complete appliance like fully integrated machines. But enterprises like to install their own OS and run their own software stack. These appliances have not caught on, at least not yet.
  - zer00eyz 3y ago
    >> Apple shows that owning the entire stack is immensely profitable. Apple shows no such thing. Apple, sells pretty, reliable and safe. A car is a car, but apple is a sports car, or a saloon. Vertical integration is the way they chose to deliver that, and pretty and reliable are all normal people care about. Nvidia is gonna have to think long and hard about the "whole stack". 20 years ago they might have been able to pull a next, but right now anything that isnt LINUX is a rounding error, and they dont want to turn into SUN (no one at nividia is smart enough to make them the next sun). Nvidia architecture + Nvidia os is not something that I see them pulling off for the datacenter.
    - __mharrison__ 3y ago
      Nvidia is moving up the stack. They announced NIMs today. I liken it to Docker for AI.
jedberg 3y ago
https://lambdalabs.com/gpu-workstations/vector https://lambdalabs.com/gpu-workstations/vector
- justinclift 3y ago
  Heh Heh Heh "Ultimate AI Workstation". Pricing starts at US$83,549: https://shop.lambdalabs.com/gpu-workstations/vector/customize https://shop.lambdalabs.com/gpu-workstations/vector/customiz... Adding every option only adds $2,100 to the price too (totalling $85,649). They should probably just include everything as standard. ;)
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- jazzyjackson 3y ago
  I love that "we installed a working python environment for you" is a front-page value-add
ribosometronome 3y ago
Isn't that just a computer? Or an eGPU, if it doesn't contain the rest of the computer?
wmf 3y ago
SXM for desktop would be great but it won't happen. The PC industry can't even adopt things like 12VO.
acchow 3y ago
That’s the DGX GB200 they announced today, with liquid cooling.

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ufocia 3y ago

Probably better to stick to the GPUs. Integration is a low margin game.

caycep 3y ago
granted, at this point we plug the computer into the GPU, so it might not make a difference...
georgyo 3y ago
I'd prefer they stick to GPUs, but I think you're over simplifying. Dell proves that selling complete units is very profitable. Apple shows that owning the entire stack is immensely profitable. Nvidia already has significant hardware and software investment. They very well could fully integrate and grab larger slices of the pie. In fact, Nvidia already has complete appliance like fully integrated machines. But enterprises like to install their own OS and run their own software stack. These appliances have not caught on, at least not yet.
- zer00eyz 3y ago
  >> Apple shows that owning the entire stack is immensely profitable. Apple shows no such thing. Apple, sells pretty, reliable and safe. A car is a car, but apple is a sports car, or a saloon. Vertical integration is the way they chose to deliver that, and pretty and reliable are all normal people care about. Nvidia is gonna have to think long and hard about the "whole stack". 20 years ago they might have been able to pull a next, but right now anything that isnt LINUX is a rounding error, and they dont want to turn into SUN (no one at nividia is smart enough to make them the next sun). Nvidia architecture + Nvidia os is not something that I see them pulling off for the datacenter.
  - __mharrison__ 3y ago
    Nvidia is moving up the stack. They announced NIMs today. I liken it to Docker for AI.

jedberg 3y ago

https://lambdalabs.com/gpu-workstations/vector https://lambdalabs.com/gpu-workstations/vector

justinclift 3y ago
Heh Heh Heh "Ultimate AI Workstation". Pricing starts at US$83,549: https://shop.lambdalabs.com/gpu-workstations/vector/customize https://shop.lambdalabs.com/gpu-workstations/vector/customiz... Adding every option only adds $2,100 to the price too (totalling $85,649). They should probably just include everything as standard. ;)
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jazzyjackson 3y ago
I love that "we installed a working python environment for you" is a front-page value-add

ribosometronome 3y ago

Isn't that just a computer? Or an eGPU, if it doesn't contain the rest of the computer?

wmf 3y ago

SXM for desktop would be great but it won't happen. The PC industry can't even adopt things like 12VO.

acchow 3y ago

That’s the DGX GB200 they announced today, with liquid cooling.