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Canonical is a ripe target. Canonical has been trying to grow Ubuntu and other tools in the enterprise world for the last few years without significant success

Canonical is a ripe target. Canonical has been trying to grow Ubuntu and other tools in the enterprise world for the last few years without significant success, and much of the Nvidia devkit stuff is built around Ubuntu.

echelon 3y ago
Please do not give them this idea. Ubuntu is actually a pretty great daily driver desktop Linux, and I'd hate for that to lose priority and disappear. I'm not a fan of what happened to the Red Hat ecosystem for exactly the same reasons.
- xmprt 3y ago
  As someone who has used Ubuntu in the past and has now moved onto greener pastures, I appreciate everything Canonical and Ubuntu have done for the Linux community but there are many better options today and Canonical is already far from the company it once used to be.
  - dgfitz 3y ago
    Whenever I see an open job req for canonical I run for the hills.
    - mianos 3y ago
      They must have a fast revolving door. I have know so many people who worked there in the last few years but seem to have moved in. Probably depends on the team and the worst ones have a lot of churn.
      - margorczynski 3y ago
        From what I see on Glassdoor they have bad, toxic management so that would explain a lot.
  - hnlmorg 3y ago
    There have always been better distributions than Ubuntu. That isn’t something new. What Canonical did better than anyone else was mass market appeal. Or at least appeal to a wider market than Linux traditionally had. But as someone who’s used Linux since the 90s, I was always underwhelmed by Ubuntu as a distribution. That all said, I have to work with a lot of CentOS and Rocky workstations for VFX and I enjoy those for desktop Linux even less than Ubuntu.
  - xarope 3y ago
    what would your top suggestions be for server or desktop, instead of ubuntu? Arch (too unstable for server?), Silverblue?
    - rompledorph 3y ago
      Recently installed PopOS on my desktop. That is currently my top suggestion as an Ubuntu alternative
    - unmole 3y ago
      Debian for server, Fedora or openSUSE Tumbleweed for desktop.
      - xarope 3y ago
        Thanks, I've started going that way too (back to Debian for server based)
  - solumunus 3y ago
    I hate it when people say stuff like this and then don’t express their opinions on the better alternatives.
    - sitkack 3y ago
      They mean Nix and Arch.
    - deleted 3y ago
      [deleted]
- greggsy 3y ago
  Tbh, Ubuntu’s only pull is the support and breadth of users. As a desktop, it’s let down by Unity, which IMHO is basically a port of Windows 8 tablet UI. If they defaulted back to a menu and taskbar-based WM, it might actually be more approachable to users who are more familiar with macOS and Windows.
  - kcb 3y ago
    Main Ubuntu hasn't shipped with Unity for like 7 years.
    - greggsy 3y ago
      Oops, I meant GDM, which changed from a taskbar-based menu to a full-screen touch menu sometime in the past 5-10 years.
- riffic 3y ago
  the desktop Linux ecosystem can survive w/o Ubuntu. Silverblue / Universal Blue for instance is quite compelling.
- pm90 3y ago
  What happened to Red Hat? As far as I see they’re continuing to invest in linux. Im glad they are keeping CoreOs around as FCOS.
hipadev23 3y ago
Canonical’s culture [1] is the antithesis of what nvidia wants. [1] https://www.reddit.com/r/recruitinghell/comments/1bec2zk/literally_the_most_insane_candidate_screening_for/ https://www.reddit.com/r/recruitinghell/comments/1bec2zk/lit...
- riffic 3y ago
  That's not culture, that's Shuttleworth.
  - ethbr1 3y ago
    "We hire only the best who can fully recall the intimate nuances of their high school experience?"
pjmlp 3y ago
I would rather bet Microsoft doing that, given their cozy relationship for .NET and main WSL distribution. At least I would finally get to buy MS Ubuntu PCs at the shopping mall.

echelon 3y ago

Please do not give them this idea. Ubuntu is actually a pretty great daily driver desktop Linux, and I'd hate for that to lose priority and disappear. I'm not a fan of what happened to the Red Hat ecosystem for exactly the same reasons.

xmprt 3y ago
As someone who has used Ubuntu in the past and has now moved onto greener pastures, I appreciate everything Canonical and Ubuntu have done for the Linux community but there are many better options today and Canonical is already far from the company it once used to be.
- dgfitz 3y ago
  Whenever I see an open job req for canonical I run for the hills.
  - mianos 3y ago
    They must have a fast revolving door. I have know so many people who worked there in the last few years but seem to have moved in. Probably depends on the team and the worst ones have a lot of churn.
    - margorczynski 3y ago
      From what I see on Glassdoor they have bad, toxic management so that would explain a lot.
- hnlmorg 3y ago
  There have always been better distributions than Ubuntu. That isn’t something new. What Canonical did better than anyone else was mass market appeal. Or at least appeal to a wider market than Linux traditionally had. But as someone who’s used Linux since the 90s, I was always underwhelmed by Ubuntu as a distribution. That all said, I have to work with a lot of CentOS and Rocky workstations for VFX and I enjoy those for desktop Linux even less than Ubuntu.
- xarope 3y ago
  what would your top suggestions be for server or desktop, instead of ubuntu? Arch (too unstable for server?), Silverblue?
  - rompledorph 3y ago
    Recently installed PopOS on my desktop. That is currently my top suggestion as an Ubuntu alternative
  - unmole 3y ago
    Debian for server, Fedora or openSUSE Tumbleweed for desktop.
    - xarope 3y ago
      Thanks, I've started going that way too (back to Debian for server based)
- solumunus 3y ago
  I hate it when people say stuff like this and then don’t express their opinions on the better alternatives.
  - sitkack 3y ago
    They mean Nix and Arch.
  - deleted 3y ago
    [deleted]
greggsy 3y ago
Tbh, Ubuntu’s only pull is the support and breadth of users. As a desktop, it’s let down by Unity, which IMHO is basically a port of Windows 8 tablet UI. If they defaulted back to a menu and taskbar-based WM, it might actually be more approachable to users who are more familiar with macOS and Windows.
- kcb 3y ago
  Main Ubuntu hasn't shipped with Unity for like 7 years.
  - greggsy 3y ago
    Oops, I meant GDM, which changed from a taskbar-based menu to a full-screen touch menu sometime in the past 5-10 years.
riffic 3y ago
the desktop Linux ecosystem can survive w/o Ubuntu. Silverblue / Universal Blue for instance is quite compelling.
pm90 3y ago
What happened to Red Hat? As far as I see they’re continuing to invest in linux. Im glad they are keeping CoreOs around as FCOS.

hipadev23 3y ago

Canonical’s culture [1] is the antithesis of what nvidia wants. [1] https://www.reddit.com/r/recruitinghell/comments/1bec2zk/literally_the_most_insane_candidate_screening_for/ https://www.reddit.com/r/recruitinghell/comments/1bec2zk/lit...

riffic 3y ago
That's not culture, that's Shuttleworth.
- ethbr1 3y ago
  "We hire only the best who can fully recall the intimate nuances of their high school experience?"

pjmlp 3y ago

I would rather bet Microsoft doing that, given their cozy relationship for .NET and main WSL distribution. At least I would finally get to buy MS Ubuntu PCs at the shopping mall.