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> “It will also be critical to see a comparison of demographics and baseline characteristics across the groups that were classified into the different time-rest

> “It will also be critical to see a comparison of demographics and baseline characteristics across the groups that were classified into the different time-restricted eating windows – for example, was the group with the shortest time-restricted eating window unique compared to people who followed other eating schedules, in terms of weight, stress, traditional cardiometabolic risk factors or other factors associated with adverse cardiovascular outcomes? This additional information will help to better understand the potential independent contribution of the short time-restricted eating pattern reported in this interesting and provocative abstract.” So correlation is likely just a data artifact of poor data analysis and nothing to do with intermittent fasting?

I_Am_Nous 3y ago
I was thinking a similar thing while reading the article, where people who are doing intermittent fasting are more likely to be overweight and less healthy than someone who isn't doing intermittent fasting. They saw an increase in people with existing heart disease as well, so perhaps more people have less healthy hearts in general than they realize?
- api 3y ago
  Reminds me of an alternate explanation of the Benadryl/diphenhydramine / dementia link: the people using diphenhydramine as a sleep aid probably have sleep problems, and their sleep problems could be the cause of earlier dementia.
hinkley 3y ago
My gut reaction: Intermittent fasters who are not doing it entirely by choice are going to have other stress markers. And those are highly correlated with cardiac function.
yeeeloit 3y ago
Exactly, this has come up before in other flawed studies. [1] "Participants" are not necessarily fasting in the sense that the sensationalised headline/paper is making out. More, good quality, studies are needed. [1] https://www.foundmyfitness.com/topics/fasting#fasting-concerns https://www.foundmyfitness.com/topics/fasting#fasting-concer...
bbor 3y ago
This just in: people on diets are overweight!
- nickburns 3y ago
  that's a fairly myopic view of the word 'diet.' lots of different people are on lots of different diets for lots of different reasons, e.g. bodybuilders or those with allergies.
  - FartinMowler 3y ago
    (swoosh)
    - nickburns 3y ago
      if the comment i replied to posits that people on diets are overweight, and there are people on diets who aren't overweight—then why don't you go ahead and finish that logic for me. not like any of this back-and-forth is whatsoever relevant to the thread anyway. and btw, i think the insult you were looking for is spelled 'woosh' or 'whoosh.' onomatopoeia and all that. a 'swoosh' is what basketballs do.
andylei 3y ago
No, that's a quote from someone they interviewed who hasn't read the full paper (the full paper is not yet available). They are saying that the details of the study will determine how significant the results are. > So correlation is likely just a data artifact of poor data analysis and nothing to do with intermittent fasting? You have no idea whether the data analysis is good or not; the only thing that was released is the abstract.

I_Am_Nous 3y ago

I was thinking a similar thing while reading the article, where people who are doing intermittent fasting are more likely to be overweight and less healthy than someone who isn't doing intermittent fasting. They saw an increase in people with existing heart disease as well, so perhaps more people have less healthy hearts in general than they realize?

api 3y ago
Reminds me of an alternate explanation of the Benadryl/diphenhydramine / dementia link: the people using diphenhydramine as a sleep aid probably have sleep problems, and their sleep problems could be the cause of earlier dementia.

hinkley 3y ago

My gut reaction: Intermittent fasters who are not doing it entirely by choice are going to have other stress markers. And those are highly correlated with cardiac function.

yeeeloit 3y ago

Exactly, this has come up before in other flawed studies. [1] "Participants" are not necessarily fasting in the sense that the sensationalised headline/paper is making out. More, good quality, studies are needed. [1] https://www.foundmyfitness.com/topics/fasting#fasting-concerns https://www.foundmyfitness.com/topics/fasting#fasting-concer...

bbor 3y ago

This just in: people on diets are overweight!

nickburns 3y ago
that's a fairly myopic view of the word 'diet.' lots of different people are on lots of different diets for lots of different reasons, e.g. bodybuilders or those with allergies.
- FartinMowler 3y ago
  (swoosh)
  - nickburns 3y ago
    if the comment i replied to posits that people on diets are overweight, and there are people on diets who aren't overweight—then why don't you go ahead and finish that logic for me. not like any of this back-and-forth is whatsoever relevant to the thread anyway. and btw, i think the insult you were looking for is spelled 'woosh' or 'whoosh.' onomatopoeia and all that. a 'swoosh' is what basketballs do.

andylei 3y ago

No, that's a quote from someone they interviewed who hasn't read the full paper (the full paper is not yet available). They are saying that the details of the study will determine how significant the results are. > So correlation is likely just a data artifact of poor data analysis and nothing to do with intermittent fasting? You have no idea whether the data analysis is good or not; the only thing that was released is the abstract.