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> I don’t enjoy the dreams anymore, I’m pretty bored of them now that I know what they probably do mechanically. Why would you think that you know what the dre

> I don’t enjoy the dreams anymore, I’m pretty bored of them now that I know what they probably do mechanically. Why would you think that you know what the dreams are? Could you tell the rest of us please? Perhaps you are coming at this from a materialistic perspective? I personally don't think there is anything straightforward about dreams. Whether you take a 'spiritual' approach (have you ever had a deja vu?) or a psychoanalytic view (messages from the subconscious, whatever that is) or some other perspective, there is nothing mechanistic or boring in dreams for me.

mylastattempt 3y ago
Just pitching in my 2 cents here, and not sure if it is what the parent commenter meant: When I "realized" that dreams and dejavu's are all, litteraly just in your head, and just memories and visualizations that your brain is connecting together, I realized that reality is the same. You're just getting signals and processing them. Wether they come from outside ("real") or from within yourself, it doesn't really matter as long as you can tell the difference. what I appreciated about the realization of dejavu and dreams being what they are, was that it gave me a much firmer grasp and believe that I can control my feelings and escape to a little fantasy where this worlds rules dont apply. And also accept that when you're just feeling shit, it's fine for a while, just some chemicals not playing ball.
- ineedaj0b 3y ago
  You’re on the right track!
ineedaj0b 3y ago
I can tell you but it’s a bit depressing. So turn back yea who are happy! Don’t read this. I thought it was something spiritual/mystical when I was younger and I liked that a lot more! And if you wanna keep enjoying dreams collapse my comment right now!!! Here’s the boring nightmare: so… your mind is thinking what comes next? What comes next? And it’s corrected repeatedly by information from the eyes and ears. Maybe the nose. It constantly corrects and that’s your ‘experience’. When you dream the system is still running; just no correction from the eyes so you see a man in your dream and your brain goes -> what’s next? And it’ll take a guess. If good: nicer dream. If bad: bad(der) dream. Frankly, it’s usually something (seemingly) random which counts as neutral. When wacky things happen your eye input isn’t correcting, so things get pretty wild or tame depending on how good your brains prediction is. Your brain is going through scenarios with no correcting input. Since I realized this 8-9 years ago I’ve been trying to prove this wrong to myself. I wish it was spiritual or mystical but it’s pretty conclusively my deluded half asleep mind doing this. I have said goodbye to loved ones in dreams, a physically impossible scenario and it’s like your living it, just no reality correction from the eyes or ears. Most people forget their dreams, but I get 4-6 a night EVERY damn night and they are like being awake! ps. If anyone knows how to reduce dreaming please leave a comment! I don’t mind dreaming, but I envy falling asleep and waking up 7-8 hours in the future ready for the next day.
- ralfd 3y ago
  > Your brain is going through scenarios with no correcting input. But this is pretty interesting as your subconscious is bubbling up into your ego!
- RheingoldRiver 3y ago
  > ps. If anyone knows how to reduce dreaming please leave a comment! I don’t mind dreaming, but I envy falling asleep and waking up 7-8 hours in the future ready for the next day. I had many more / worse dreams when on anti-insomnia drugs, so if you are taking those I would suggest trying to stop. Although, getting off anti-insomnia medication is a terrible, terrible experience for a couple weeks (and get medical advice etc of course).
  - marconaut 3y ago
    Antidepressants certainly affect my dreams. Prozac: Bad,annoying dreams but mildly so. Citalopram: Good dreams, sometimes epic dreams. Venlafaxine: Not sure I dream. Makes it harder to sleep too.
- tacotime 3y ago
  Regular cannabis/THC use is pretty famous for reducing REM sleep and dreaming.
  - juujian 3y ago
    I don't consume often, haven't in years, but I remember having pretty wild dreams after, so I wouldn't get a good rest. So there is a difference with regular documentation?
- Sammi 3y ago
  Sleep apnoea can cause a lot of dreams, as it causes you to be half awake. So definitely get yourself tested for that.
  - ineedaj0b 3y ago
marconaut 3y ago
I would like to randomly chime in here regarding antidepressants and dreams. On Prozac I sleep well but have 100% formulaic dreams. I don't like them. Each one is a mildly to moderately annoying situation that I cannot escape from. For example, I'm in a building or neighborhood and I want to get away from some antagonist or who knows what. Using much effor and willpower I sort of get away but in that instant it resets and I'm back to getting away. Citalopram (Celexa) though.....those dreams were the opposite. Wonderful and enjoyable with a bit of flying. Lucid too, I often realized I was in a dream and learned to manipulate it at will as well as some flying.

mylastattempt 3y ago

Just pitching in my 2 cents here, and not sure if it is what the parent commenter meant: When I "realized" that dreams and dejavu's are all, litteraly just in your head, and just memories and visualizations that your brain is connecting together, I realized that reality is the same. You're just getting signals and processing them. Wether they come from outside ("real") or from within yourself, it doesn't really matter as long as you can tell the difference. what I appreciated about the realization of dejavu and dreams being what they are, was that it gave me a much firmer grasp and believe that I can control my feelings and escape to a little fantasy where this worlds rules dont apply. And also accept that when you're just feeling shit, it's fine for a while, just some chemicals not playing ball.

ineedaj0b 3y ago
You’re on the right track!

ineedaj0b 3y ago

I can tell you but it’s a bit depressing. So turn back yea who are happy! Don’t read this. I thought it was something spiritual/mystical when I was younger and I liked that a lot more! And if you wanna keep enjoying dreams collapse my comment right now!!! Here’s the boring nightmare: so… your mind is thinking what comes next? What comes next? And it’s corrected repeatedly by information from the eyes and ears. Maybe the nose. It constantly corrects and that’s your ‘experience’. When you dream the system is still running; just no correction from the eyes so you see a man in your dream and your brain goes -> what’s next? And it’ll take a guess. If good: nicer dream. If bad: bad(der) dream. Frankly, it’s usually something (seemingly) random which counts as neutral. When wacky things happen your eye input isn’t correcting, so things get pretty wild or tame depending on how good your brains prediction is. Your brain is going through scenarios with no correcting input. Since I realized this 8-9 years ago I’ve been trying to prove this wrong to myself. I wish it was spiritual or mystical but it’s pretty conclusively my deluded half asleep mind doing this. I have said goodbye to loved ones in dreams, a physically impossible scenario and it’s like your living it, just no reality correction from the eyes or ears. Most people forget their dreams, but I get 4-6 a night EVERY damn night and they are like being awake! ps. If anyone knows how to reduce dreaming please leave a comment! I don’t mind dreaming, but I envy falling asleep and waking up 7-8 hours in the future ready for the next day.

ralfd 3y ago
> Your brain is going through scenarios with no correcting input. But this is pretty interesting as your subconscious is bubbling up into your ego!
RheingoldRiver 3y ago
> ps. If anyone knows how to reduce dreaming please leave a comment! I don’t mind dreaming, but I envy falling asleep and waking up 7-8 hours in the future ready for the next day. I had many more / worse dreams when on anti-insomnia drugs, so if you are taking those I would suggest trying to stop. Although, getting off anti-insomnia medication is a terrible, terrible experience for a couple weeks (and get medical advice etc of course).
- marconaut 3y ago
  Antidepressants certainly affect my dreams. Prozac: Bad,annoying dreams but mildly so. Citalopram: Good dreams, sometimes epic dreams. Venlafaxine: Not sure I dream. Makes it harder to sleep too.
tacotime 3y ago
Regular cannabis/THC use is pretty famous for reducing REM sleep and dreaming.
- juujian 3y ago
  I don't consume often, haven't in years, but I remember having pretty wild dreams after, so I wouldn't get a good rest. So there is a difference with regular documentation?
Sammi 3y ago
Sleep apnoea can cause a lot of dreams, as it causes you to be half awake. So definitely get yourself tested for that.
- ineedaj0b 3y ago

marconaut 3y ago

I would like to randomly chime in here regarding antidepressants and dreams. On Prozac I sleep well but have 100% formulaic dreams. I don't like them. Each one is a mildly to moderately annoying situation that I cannot escape from. For example, I'm in a building or neighborhood and I want to get away from some antagonist or who knows what. Using much effor and willpower I sort of get away but in that instant it resets and I'm back to getting away. Citalopram (Celexa) though.....those dreams were the opposite. Wonderful and enjoyable with a bit of flying. Lucid too, I often realized I was in a dream and learned to manipulate it at will as well as some flying.