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DGSE (French secret service) really like to drown people, so avoid cities with canals and/or river if you feel you can be a target :)

by orwin 3y ago

littlestymaar 3y ago
Interesting, I had never heard of that before. Do you have references that I could read on the topic?
- orwin 3y ago
  It's tongue in cheek, we kill in many different ways. Drowning related however, the most known is this one (even got a wiki page, so it's really well known!) en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Boulin But Choukri Ghanem also managed to drown himself in Vienna. A related death was Albichari, a 37 yo dying of diabetes, and 6 years later, Bechir Saleh assassination attempt by a commando (with his bodyguard crew saving him), so the DGSE clearly have multiple ways of doing business.
  - karambahh 3y ago
    Small nitpick, if (which is very likely to me but unfortunately hasn't been proven) Robert Boulin has been murdered, it's definitely not by the DGSE or it predecessor, as they operate outside of France. If you agree is that it's not a suicide, opinions differ on whether it's government team that did it or the "SAC", a paramilitary group linked to the then ruling party, not an official secret service
    - orwin 3y ago
      True, true, it probably wasn't secret services (interestingly, they were busy preparing an operation against Khadafi in Lybia around that time, that they did not execute according to Pierre Marion, ex DGSE director), and Mitterand wasn't keen on assassinations before 81, so i don't think it was on his orders, weirdly. But i've read that recently "https://www.amazon.fr/tueurs-R%C3%A9publique-Assassinats-op%C3%A9rations-sp%C3%A9ciales/dp/2290372846 https://www.amazon.fr/tueurs-R%C3%A9publique-Assassinats-op%..." and now i have to jump in when people talk about political assassination, even though i know almost nothing about the subject, and everything i know is so thin it should be disregarded anyway. As the memory fade, i will stop doing that. Sorry :/

DGSE (French secret service) really like to drown people, so avoid cities with canals and/or river if you feel you can be a target :)

by orwin 3y ago

DGSE (French secret service) really like to drown people, so avoid cities with canals and/or river if you feel you can be a target :)

littlestymaar 3y ago

Interesting, I had never heard of that before. Do you have references that I could read on the topic?

orwin 3y ago
It's tongue in cheek, we kill in many different ways. Drowning related however, the most known is this one (even got a wiki page, so it's really well known!) en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Boulin But Choukri Ghanem also managed to drown himself in Vienna. A related death was Albichari, a 37 yo dying of diabetes, and 6 years later, Bechir Saleh assassination attempt by a commando (with his bodyguard crew saving him), so the DGSE clearly have multiple ways of doing business.
- karambahh 3y ago
  Small nitpick, if (which is very likely to me but unfortunately hasn't been proven) Robert Boulin has been murdered, it's definitely not by the DGSE or it predecessor, as they operate outside of France. If you agree is that it's not a suicide, opinions differ on whether it's government team that did it or the "SAC", a paramilitary group linked to the then ruling party, not an official secret service
  - orwin 3y ago
    True, true, it probably wasn't secret services (interestingly, they were busy preparing an operation against Khadafi in Lybia around that time, that they did not execute according to Pierre Marion, ex DGSE director), and Mitterand wasn't keen on assassinations before 81, so i don't think it was on his orders, weirdly. But i've read that recently "https://www.amazon.fr/tueurs-R%C3%A9publique-Assassinats-op%C3%A9rations-sp%C3%A9ciales/dp/2290372846 https://www.amazon.fr/tueurs-R%C3%A9publique-Assassinats-op%..." and now i have to jump in when people talk about political assassination, even though i know almost nothing about the subject, and everything i know is so thin it should be disregarded anyway. As the memory fade, i will stop doing that. Sorry :/