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The entire Dune series is an examination of consequentialism. There are good consequences for all of humanity. Whether Herbert endorses consequentialism in the
by smt88 3y ago
The entire Dune series is an examination of consequentialism. There are good consequences for all of humanity.
Whether Herbert endorses consequentialism in the real world is not something you could guess just from the books. The cost of the good consequences is unfathomably high.
- lapcat 3y agoIf you can find a copy, "The Maker of Dune" gives some nice insights into Herbert's thinking. The book looks to be pretty hard to find now, though. I used to have a copy, but I must have sold it at some point when I was poorer. [Edit:] The internet archive has it: https://archive.org/details/the-maker-of-dune-insights-of-a-master-of-science-fiction-by-frank-herbert-tim-o-reilly https://archive.org/details/the-maker-of-dune-insights-of-a-...
- dragonwriter 3y ago> The entire Dune series is an examination of consequentialism. There are good consequences for all of humanity. Mighty big asterisk on the “all” there.
- smt88 3y ago> Mighty big asterisk on the “all” there. As long as [unacceptable sacrifice] is objectively smaller than [benefit], it works as an analogy for real-world consequentialism like the develoment/use of the atom bomb. The book went to some lengths to tell you with certainty that the sacrifice was smaller than the benefit.
- ahepp 3y agoI think their point is that a straightforward reading of the statement “this had good consequences for all of humanity” would need to be evaluated by examining the finite equivalent “there does not exist a member of humanity for whom this had bad consequences”. Hence they propose an asterisk next to “all”, because “all of humanity” means something more like “humanity as a whole (decided by someone?)” or “humanity (the ones who aren’t dead?)”