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I’m so tired of this Apple tax, I think nobody would be this annoyed if Apple were saying 10% or something around that. 30% is more than most companies pay in t
by andy_ppp 3y ago
I’m so tired of this Apple tax, I think nobody would be this annoyed if Apple were saying 10% or something around that. 30% is more than most companies pay in tax on profits and this is a tax on revenue. I don’t think abusing your market position like some kind of protection racket should be allowed and if you don’t like it we’ll delete your App is quite frankly just as bad as the mafia smashing in shop windows. I doubt anyone will stop them but we can hope…
- grishka 3y agoIf only it was just about the money. The review process itself is beyond ridiculous sometimes, and sometimes has you remove things from your apps that you want and your users want, but Apple doesn't like.
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- jncfhnb 3y agoIf you say this then you’ll surely also be fine to just not use other app stores if you don’t want them. Right? Just don’t use them!
- throwaway118899 3y ago[flagged]
- jncfhnb 3y agoIt actually gives me great joy to imagine this. And, bro, “status quo” is literally a form of bias, not reasoning
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- paulddraper 3y agoWell, truth be told, I kinda wanna facetime them too, but not enough to buy Apple.
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- ametrau 3y ago“Ummmmmmmm akshully you’re not forced to use duopoly A’s marketplace, you can go to B as well”
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- smoldesu 3y agoEurope is the home of ARM, the core technology licensed in Apple silicon for what, 15 years now? STMicroelectronics too, who is just as important in the production of the iPhone as Texas Instruments. More logically, the United States is reluctant to regulate phone shipments because Apple and Google constitute the strongest surveillance network ever exported internationally. Europe stands to lose nothing if Epic or Spotify go bankrupt, the 'muh protectionism' argument only makes sense from the perspective of companies that actually matter. So obviously there has to be something bigger at play, the Commission wouldn't be listening to scoundrels and nobodies unless they said something that made sense.
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- its_ethan 3y ago30% isn't some outlier share though? It also has been that way since the beginning, so it's not like they achieved their market position and then jacked up the prices; it's been this way the whole time - and, in fact, they've added programs where smaller businesses only pay a 15% commission..
- matwood 3y agoNot an outlier and is pretty standard. When it was originally announced it was one of the best deals out there for developers writing software for phones. The WWDC audience cheered at getting 70%.
- skydhash 3y agoWasn't the market for mobile app small at the time. Almost everyone was focused on desktop and web applications. If you're looking to make millions, even preferential deals don't look like a good deal.
- beeboobaa 3y agoThe WWDC audience cheers at everything.
- greiskul 3y agoDoesn't matter. Why does the developer of the operating system get to take anything from a sale between an app developer and the owner of the actual cellphone? It is not Apples phone anymore after they sell it to a customer. Imagine if your car manufacturer wanted 30% of revenue from the shops you drive your car to.
- nozzlegear 3y agoReplace "developer of the operating system" with "curator of the ecosystem of highly affluent, paying customers" and you'll start to understand why Apple thinks they should have a cut. They see themselves as the headhunter, finding paying customers for the developer.
- JimDabell 3y ago> I think nobody would be this annoyed if Apple were saying 10% or something around that. 30% is more than most companies pay in tax on profits Almost every developer pays 15%. You only pay 30% if you earn more than a million dollars a year from the App Store.
- summerlight 3y agoThis is an extremely long tail problem. When you count the absolute numbers on the revenue, it's much larger. Perhaps the absolute majority of the app store revenue would be subject to the 30% tax. Money matters, not the number of apps.