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> I think a key part of why this was confusing to many back in the day was that the big thing at the time was "client-server computing". Anecdata, but that's

• shrimp_emoji 3y ago
  Yep. Networking was the beginning of the end of anything comprehensible.
  • krallja 3y ago
    I still don’t know the difference between “upstream” and “downstream!” Envoy uses the opposite definitions from what I’m used to. And has a perfectly cromulent explanation for why; I’m convinced. But now I don’t know why I started calling them the opposite.
    • magicalhippo 3y ago
      > I still don’t know the difference between “upstream” and “downstream!” I just envision being Darkly Noon, sitting at the river bed, watching the giant shoe floating into view from upstream, going downstream. Anything else don't make sense.
      • krallja 3y ago
        Data goes in both directions. Is “upstream” where the requests come from, or where the responses come from?
        • magicalhippo 3y ago
          From your example, one could envision an extended edition where, shortly after the shoe goes out of view[1] floating past him, someone shouts "anyone missing a shoe?" That response would then come from downstream from Darkly. My point was that it's a matter of perspective. And it requires a certain well-defined gradient (the river), I don't think "upstream" and "downstream" make much sense when all you have is a lake. [1]: https://youtu.be/eBCDXN6HBS4?t=164 https://youtu.be/eBCDXN6HBS4?t=164