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Signal or matrix interop would be great. I use WhatsApp as the logistical tool of choice to communicate with my coworkers when away from the company but I wish
by irusensei 3y ago
Signal or matrix interop would be great. I use WhatsApp as the logistical tool of choice to communicate with my coworkers when away from the company but I wish I could uninstall it. Not my tribe.
- ydnaclementine 3y agoNot sure if signal should interopt with data mining software. Keep that stuff isolated
- Krasnol 3y agoThey have usernames now. Using it with a dedicated username for whatsapp contacts could be a way.
- crtasm 3y agoSignal would have to change how they work for that, at present it shares your profile name after you've initiated a chat using the "username" - very confusing choice of wording.
- nottorp 3y agoWhat do you mean? You can set a nickname but they'll send your phone number to everyone you chat with? What's the point of nicknames then?
- nonillion 3y agoCurrently everyone who chats with me cannot see my phone number — even people who have my phone number saved in their phone (I was surprised as I thought it would still show this if they had it saved). There is a setting to entirely hide your phone number from everyone.
- madeofpalk 3y agohttps://signal.org/blog/phone-number-privacy-usernames/ https://signal.org/blog/phone-number-privacy-usernames/ > Usernames simply allow you to initiate a connection on Signal without sharing your phone number > Starting soon, your phone number will no longer be visible to people you chat with on Signal, unless they have it in their phone’s contacts. You will also be able to configure a new privacy setting to limit who can find you by your phone number on Signal. And, you’ll now be able to create an optional username that you can share with the people you want to connect with on Signal.
- nottorp 3y ago> unless they have it in their phone’s contacts Lol. Why should they be allowed to associate my phone with my signal handle even then. If i want them to know I'll tell them. > a new privacy setting to limit who can find you by your phone number on Signal Double lol. Limit is not disable. How about an option to "do not give my phone number to anyone, no matter what reason to pass it around you make up this week"? And the obvious next step: do not get my phone number period. But that has been discussed before.
- lxgr 3y agoAs far as I can tell, "limit" will soon mean "disable". They just can't flip that switch yet given that legacy clients will not know what to do about "numberless contacts". > do not get my phone number period I'd also like that, but they apparently use phone numbers as a primary key for account recovery and identification (e.g. on a new device without the old one present), so that's probably very hard to change architecturally. There are some interesting concepts of "identityless messengers", but this is inherently hard to do on mobile – at least the platform operator will always know which identities are clustered together on a given device if you want efficient push notification delivery over APNs/FCM.
- nottorp 3y ago> There are some interesting concepts of "identityless messengers" Like... icq... yahoo messenger... old skype... ? And even some modern mobile chat apps i think.
- the_gipsy 3y agoMatrix has WhatsApp interop that works excellent. It somehow uses the web client, which I imagine could be replaced by real interop.
- Vinnl 3y agoYou can't uninstall WhatsApp that way though. Not just the web client, but also the app on your phone, which the web client proxies everything through.
- laurex 3y agoThere's an interesting philosophical question: if we have a fediverse or open source ecosystem for communication that is deeply integrated into Big Tech, does that make the fediverse stronger, or does it neuter the impact of fediverse as a possible "infrastructure-level" competitor of communication and information sharing?