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The article fails to realise that the exploitation has nothing to do with AI, has existed for the last two decades, can be done with Photoshop. There is literal

The article fails to realise that the exploitation has nothing to do with AI, has existed for the last two decades, can be done with Photoshop. There is literally nothing that’s “AI” in the article. It makes good clickbait headline though. Also there are existing laws for protecting against defamation.

johann8384 3y ago
I think there is the implication that any idiot can do it now and there has been an explosion in proliferation as the new tech has lowered the barriers to producing content.
- bombcar 3y ago
  It’s like saying that since you could carry around a Morse transmitter in 1920 that texting wasn’t something really new. Perhaps not, but ease of use really can be transformative on how something affects society. Especially since someone who has to spend years learning how to do something is less likely to do stupid shit with it than someone who just has to click a few buttons.
dmd 3y ago
Any file on a computer can be generated by writing it the contents down in hexadecimal on sheepskin in ink made from walnuts, then scanning in and OCRing that data. Will you claim that, therefore, NO software can possibly have any societal impact? Because, after all, it’s already “possible” to do what that software does?
Zetobal 3y ago
The problem is that people like you have no idea what they are talking about this way worse than mere badly photoshopped images. They look real. I gladly do a little experiment if you send me one picture of yours and the address of your workplace.
- postalrat 3y ago
  Browse around the "about us" that many companies have on their website. Most included head shots. Generate and send some images. I doubt you will get much of a reaction.
  - mistermann 3y ago
    Someone should put this bug in 4chan's ear, what a spectacle that would be!
dorkwood 3y ago
This could actually be done long before Photoshop came along. You would simply mix some paint on a palette to match the person's skin tone, and then paint over the person's clothes to "remove" them.
- scarface_74 3y ago
  And the average middle schooler could not do that convincingly compared to just uploading an image and a computer making it look convincing.
  - Art9681 3y ago
    It is not easier to generate a convincing image. The amount of time it would take to learn how to clip a face, and blend it in Photoshop onto a real image would take less time than learning how to configure an advanced AI workflow to do the face swap, fix the hands, skin, etc. If anything, I would argue what increases devious interest in this topic is the media talking about it as if it was new. Thats a quick way to get a lot of people "involved" on both sides of the debate.
    - scarface_74 3y ago
      Just doing a little digging on the internet. You can create a free email address, log in to promptchan.ai, upload a picture, select the region of the body you want to unclothe and type “nude”. Yes, I had to do about 5 minutes research on the internet to figure it out. This is the version on the App Store https://apps.apple.com/us/app/promptai-girl-generator/id6469985698 https://apps.apple.com/us/app/promptai-girl-generator/id6469... Because of Apple’s rules, it won’t let you “unclothe” pictures. But the website will. As a 50 year old married dude who never delved into that side of the world (not claiming I’ve never looked at porn though), I didn’t know how convincing it could do it for adults with shadows, skin tones, etc.
    - miohtama 3y ago
      Face swap (or any object swap) is literally built into Photoshop https://www.adobe.com/mena_en/creativecloud/photography/discover/face-swap.html https://www.adobe.com/mena_en/creativecloud/photography/disc...
gorm 3y ago
Its obvious that it gets worse as there are more scumbags who can pay $10 on a criminal fakenude site than scumbags who can use Photoshop.
- yieldcrv 3y ago
  by that standard people could always pay you use a criminal fakenude site to use photoshop compare the same thing
  - dvngnt_ 3y ago
    now it's even easier as you can self serve. lowering the barriers to entry which is why we're seeing more events
    - yieldcrv 3y ago
      I agree on that part I can't stand it when a boomer's version of a same service says "contact for quote", and the sales agent acts confused and perplexed about the term "self service" when you ask if such a thing is on the roadmap (this wasn't about criminal websites, just self service e-commerce)

johann8384 3y ago

I think there is the implication that any idiot can do it now and there has been an explosion in proliferation as the new tech has lowered the barriers to producing content.

bombcar 3y ago
It’s like saying that since you could carry around a Morse transmitter in 1920 that texting wasn’t something really new. Perhaps not, but ease of use really can be transformative on how something affects society. Especially since someone who has to spend years learning how to do something is less likely to do stupid shit with it than someone who just has to click a few buttons.

dmd 3y ago

Any file on a computer can be generated by writing it the contents down in hexadecimal on sheepskin in ink made from walnuts, then scanning in and OCRing that data. Will you claim that, therefore, NO software can possibly have any societal impact? Because, after all, it’s already “possible” to do what that software does?

Zetobal 3y ago

The problem is that people like you have no idea what they are talking about this way worse than mere badly photoshopped images. They look real. I gladly do a little experiment if you send me one picture of yours and the address of your workplace.

postalrat 3y ago
Browse around the "about us" that many companies have on their website. Most included head shots. Generate and send some images. I doubt you will get much of a reaction.
- mistermann 3y ago
  Someone should put this bug in 4chan's ear, what a spectacle that would be!

dorkwood 3y ago

This could actually be done long before Photoshop came along. You would simply mix some paint on a palette to match the person's skin tone, and then paint over the person's clothes to "remove" them.

scarface_74 3y ago
And the average middle schooler could not do that convincingly compared to just uploading an image and a computer making it look convincing.
- Art9681 3y ago
  It is not easier to generate a convincing image. The amount of time it would take to learn how to clip a face, and blend it in Photoshop onto a real image would take less time than learning how to configure an advanced AI workflow to do the face swap, fix the hands, skin, etc. If anything, I would argue what increases devious interest in this topic is the media talking about it as if it was new. Thats a quick way to get a lot of people "involved" on both sides of the debate.
  - scarface_74 3y ago
    Just doing a little digging on the internet. You can create a free email address, log in to promptchan.ai, upload a picture, select the region of the body you want to unclothe and type “nude”. Yes, I had to do about 5 minutes research on the internet to figure it out. This is the version on the App Store https://apps.apple.com/us/app/promptai-girl-generator/id6469985698 https://apps.apple.com/us/app/promptai-girl-generator/id6469... Because of Apple’s rules, it won’t let you “unclothe” pictures. But the website will. As a 50 year old married dude who never delved into that side of the world (not claiming I’ve never looked at porn though), I didn’t know how convincing it could do it for adults with shadows, skin tones, etc.
  - miohtama 3y ago
    Face swap (or any object swap) is literally built into Photoshop https://www.adobe.com/mena_en/creativecloud/photography/discover/face-swap.html https://www.adobe.com/mena_en/creativecloud/photography/disc...

gorm 3y ago

Its obvious that it gets worse as there are more scumbags who can pay $10 on a criminal fakenude site than scumbags who can use Photoshop.

yieldcrv 3y ago
by that standard people could always pay you use a criminal fakenude site to use photoshop compare the same thing
- dvngnt_ 3y ago
  now it's even easier as you can self serve. lowering the barriers to entry which is why we're seeing more events
  - yieldcrv 3y ago
    I agree on that part I can't stand it when a boomer's version of a same service says "contact for quote", and the sales agent acts confused and perplexed about the term "self service" when you ask if such a thing is on the roadmap (this wasn't about criminal websites, just self service e-commerce)