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"On January 6, 2021, few people at The New York Times remarked on the fact that liberals were cheering on the deployment of National Guardsmen to stop rioting a
by bloopernova 3y ago
"On January 6, 2021, few people at The New York Times remarked on the fact that liberals were cheering on the deployment of National Guardsmen to stop rioting at the Capitol Building in Washington, D.C., the very thing Tom Cotton had advocated."
People burning police cars and a police station in Portland after a man is killed by police, at a time when opinion of police is very low.
Vs.
People invading the US Capitol building during the ratification of the presidential election, at the behest of the losing candidate, while a gallows was erected outside.
Those 2 situations are very different. It's disingenuous or dishonest to say otherwise.
This piece talks a lot about how biased the author's coworkers were, but says nothing of his own biases. The USA isn't going to heal until conservatives reject christian nationalism and instead embrace compromise.
- kergonath 3y agoExactly. The thing is, most people don’t have any problem with the existence of the police, which is why the “defund” message does not work well in practice. Most people understand that mechanisms to limit crime are useful. The problem is when the role of the police is not to do that, but instead enforce prejudice, harm and harass specific categories of people.
- newsclues 3y agoMy understanding is that the goal of defunding the police is to force out the current police and allow for a takeover.
- barry-cotter 3y ago> Yes, We Mean Literally Abolish the Police https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/12/opinion/sunday/floyd-abolish-defund-police.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/12/opinion/sunday/floyd-abol...
- newsclues 3y agoI remember that insurrection
- mantas 3y agoTakeover by who? Self-appointed anarchist peace keepers?
- orwin 3y agoThe issue with police in all western countries is the same. They do a lot of different stuff, often badly. And a management issue in France. We have specialized, anti-riot police that can defuse situations and protect demonstrations. And we have different anti-'crime' police who also get called during demonstration, envenimate the situation half the time and beat people up, break their hand and pierce their eyes. Weirdly, no one from the part of police formed to handle street protests is there. Then come the politic/management part: the men who handle deployments and plans aren't formed either. They're sometimes ex-police (criminal or intervention, Swat-like), but often they're politicians and administrators, and never were on the street. That's how bad elements destroy an institution (a few bad apple rot the whole basket is the English idiom?) : poor formation, poor oversight, poor management let them thrive.
- kcplate 3y agoTwo things that I believe would dramatically reform policing in the US. - Eliminate qualified immunity so it’s not the default guiding principle to police interactions - Find ways to identify and weed out the bully personality types that find themselves drawn into the vocation. Zero tolerance policies that immediately eliminate officers who engage in that type of behavior and tactics.
- barry-cotter 3y agoBravo, excellently done satire. The last line really took it over the top to laugh out loud territory.
- KevinMS 3y ago> while a gallows was erected outside It wasn't real. It was a non-functional prop, midget size, with no hole in the platform, and the noose was a rope wrapped around a water bottle to make it look more real. Maybe you should examine the bias bubble you find yourself in.
- silverquiet 3y agoWhy do you think they built it then?
- AlexandrB 3y agoSame reason people love burning Trump in effigy: symbolism.