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If he thinks GPT-4 is AGI, Elon should ask a team of GPT-4 bots to design, build and launch his rockets and see how it goes. If “economically valuable work” mea

by jp_nc 3y ago

If he thinks GPT-4 is AGI, Elon should ask a team of GPT-4 bots to design, build and launch his rockets and see how it goes. If “economically valuable work” means creating terrible, wordy blog posts then yeah I guess it’s a risk.

bart_spoon 3y ago
I don’t think GPT-4 is AGI, but that seems like a foolish idea. An AGI doesn’t need to be hyperproficient at everything, or even anything. Ask a team of any non-aeronautical engineers to build a rocket and it will go poorly. Do those people not qualify as intelligent beings?
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- blibble 3y ago
  > Ask a team of any non-aeronautical engineers to build a rocket and it will go poorly. Do those people not qualify as intelligent beings? I suspect you'd have one person on the team that would say "perhaps you'd be better choosing a team that knows what they're doing" meanwhile GPT-4 would happily accept and emit BS
  - ToValueFunfetti 3y ago
    Have you used GPT-4? I'd criticize it in the opposite direction. It routinely defers to experts on even the simplest questions. If you ask it to tell you how to launch a satellite into orbit, it leads with: >Launching a satellite into orbit is a complex and challenging process that requires extensive knowledge in aerospace engineering, physics, and regulatory compliance. It's a task typically undertaken by governments or large corporations due to the technical and financial resources required. However, I can give you a high-level overview of the steps involved:
- spencerflem 3y ago
  Outperforming humans does not mean outperforming an average untrained human
  - stubish 3y ago
    Why does AGI infer outperforming any humans? Half the humans on the planet perform worse than the average human. Does that make them non-intelligent?
    - spencerflem 3y ago
      That's the definition given by Sam Altman above
Petersipoi 3y ago
You're just highlighting the issue. Nobody can agree on the definition of AGI. The most people would agree that being able to design, build, and launch rockets is definitely _not_ the definition. The fact that M$ has such a stronghold in OpenAI means that they won't declare anything as AGI even if most people would say it is.
Andrex 3y ago
Pre and post-AGI might be a line, but AGI at inception will necessarily be less capable than the same AGI tech later in its life.

by jp_nc 3y ago

bart_spoon 3y ago

I don’t think GPT-4 is AGI, but that seems like a foolish idea. An AGI doesn’t need to be hyperproficient at everything, or even anything. Ask a team of any non-aeronautical engineers to build a rocket and it will go poorly. Do those people not qualify as intelligent beings?

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blibble 3y ago
> Ask a team of any non-aeronautical engineers to build a rocket and it will go poorly. Do those people not qualify as intelligent beings? I suspect you'd have one person on the team that would say "perhaps you'd be better choosing a team that knows what they're doing" meanwhile GPT-4 would happily accept and emit BS
- ToValueFunfetti 3y ago
  Have you used GPT-4? I'd criticize it in the opposite direction. It routinely defers to experts on even the simplest questions. If you ask it to tell you how to launch a satellite into orbit, it leads with: >Launching a satellite into orbit is a complex and challenging process that requires extensive knowledge in aerospace engineering, physics, and regulatory compliance. It's a task typically undertaken by governments or large corporations due to the technical and financial resources required. However, I can give you a high-level overview of the steps involved:
spencerflem 3y ago
Outperforming humans does not mean outperforming an average untrained human
- stubish 3y ago
  Why does AGI infer outperforming any humans? Half the humans on the planet perform worse than the average human. Does that make them non-intelligent?
  - spencerflem 3y ago
    That's the definition given by Sam Altman above

Petersipoi 3y ago

You're just highlighting the issue. Nobody can agree on the definition of AGI. The most people would agree that being able to design, build, and launch rockets is definitely _not_ the definition. The fact that M$ has such a stronghold in OpenAI means that they won't declare anything as AGI even if most people would say it is.

Andrex 3y ago

Pre and post-AGI might be a line, but AGI at inception will necessarily be less capable than the same AGI tech later in its life.