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As a bay area resident: I don't think this carveout materially amounts to much. There are sooooo many open fast food positions and if they all go to $20 (curre

by gretch 3y ago

As a bay area resident: I don't think this carveout materially amounts to much. There are sooooo many open fast food positions and if they all go to $20 (currently at $17 in my area) then panera has to keep up. It is still a free option though. However, that answer from Newsom was piss poor. He says "it's just part of the sausage making" and negotiation process. Ultimately dodging the question since no substance on motivation was supplied as to why baking bread makes things different. He's not the kinda guy I want as a state leader and governor. Unfortunately, we never get any exciting competition against the scumbag either.

golgappa 3y ago
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seanmcdirmid 3y ago
I’m confused. Was this an executive order or did it come out of the legislature? If the latter, then why does Newsom’s comment bother you so much? There are probably a lot of weird exemption in there, especially since it goes after an industry, you have to define fast food now.
- gretch 3y ago
  He got up on that stand to answer questions. If he’s going to go up and proceed to dodge questions, then he needs to just go home and stop scheduling press events. I don’t want a coward for a leader.
  - seanmcdirmid 3y ago
    It all felt weird anyways. Why would bakeries be considered fast food, or why was fast food singled out compared to other minimum wage jobs? This seems like bad legislation when they should have just hiked the minimum wage (which is probably already effectively over $20/hour in most CA cities).
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lettergram 3y ago
lol weren’t there tens of people competing against him in a recent recall election? Seems more like people are more scared of real change. Quite literally heard friends saying they didn’t have a choice but to vote for Newsome, because Larry Elder was a white supremacist. Couldn’t believe they were saying that with a straight face during that election lol https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-08-20/recall-candidate-larry-elder-is-a-threat-to-black-californians https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-08-20/recall-c... Ultimately, elections in California are highly managed. The media is powerful, laws favor vote harvester, which are well organized. Then you have the weird primary laws, which just exempt other parties from the general elections. You aren’t ever getting out of Newsome or the next one like him lol
- gretch 3y ago
  I actually spent a fair chunk of my afternoon researching the candidates during that election. I don’t think elder is a white supremacist and personally I also would consider myself “tough on crime”. But his views on the situation are also just kinda dumb (and I prefer newsom over this guy). Cops in this country, including California, are systematically fucked. Maybe a little racist, maybe a lot racist. But for example, check the recent story where the cop started shooting because he heard an acorn drop.
  - lettergram 3y ago
    Yeah I’m not saying one way or another who was better tbh. I’m just pointing out that specific case as a way the media was supporting Newsome particularly there. If every challenger is either ignored or painted in a bad light; then people won’t know of good options. Personally, not sure Newsome is better or worse; but overall California is worse than when I left in 2017.

by gretch 3y ago

golgappa 3y ago

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seanmcdirmid 3y ago

I’m confused. Was this an executive order or did it come out of the legislature? If the latter, then why does Newsom’s comment bother you so much? There are probably a lot of weird exemption in there, especially since it goes after an industry, you have to define fast food now.

gretch 3y ago
He got up on that stand to answer questions. If he’s going to go up and proceed to dodge questions, then he needs to just go home and stop scheduling press events. I don’t want a coward for a leader.
- seanmcdirmid 3y ago
  It all felt weird anyways. Why would bakeries be considered fast food, or why was fast food singled out compared to other minimum wage jobs? This seems like bad legislation when they should have just hiked the minimum wage (which is probably already effectively over $20/hour in most CA cities).
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lettergram 3y ago

lol weren’t there tens of people competing against him in a recent recall election? Seems more like people are more scared of real change. Quite literally heard friends saying they didn’t have a choice but to vote for Newsome, because Larry Elder was a white supremacist. Couldn’t believe they were saying that with a straight face during that election lol https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-08-20/recall-candidate-larry-elder-is-a-threat-to-black-californians https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-08-20/recall-c... Ultimately, elections in California are highly managed. The media is powerful, laws favor vote harvester, which are well organized. Then you have the weird primary laws, which just exempt other parties from the general elections. You aren’t ever getting out of Newsome or the next one like him lol

gretch 3y ago
I actually spent a fair chunk of my afternoon researching the candidates during that election. I don’t think elder is a white supremacist and personally I also would consider myself “tough on crime”. But his views on the situation are also just kinda dumb (and I prefer newsom over this guy). Cops in this country, including California, are systematically fucked. Maybe a little racist, maybe a lot racist. But for example, check the recent story where the cop started shooting because he heard an acorn drop.
- lettergram 3y ago
  Yeah I’m not saying one way or another who was better tbh. I’m just pointing out that specific case as a way the media was supporting Newsome particularly there. If every challenger is either ignored or painted in a bad light; then people won’t know of good options. Personally, not sure Newsome is better or worse; but overall California is worse than when I left in 2017.