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Agreed. I've never understood this cry for "decentralization for everything" coming from this tiny bubble of nerds. Nobody in the real world cares about it eve

Agreed. I've never understood this cry for "decentralization for everything" coming from this tiny bubble of nerds. Nobody in the real world cares about it even one bit. The only thing people out there actually want is CONVENIENCE and USABILITY. When will the nerds understand?

lorean_victor 3y ago
You are right I'm sorry. I wasn't notified that anything discussed on these forums should be exclusively about whatever "the real world" cares about at least one bit (preferably 8 bits or more I guess?). Ah the nerds, when will we understand, indeed.
- jdthedisciple 3y ago
  Yo don't take my comment in bad faith, I was being tongue-in-cheek sarcastic. Obviously "we" here on HN care about the idea itself/tech ... Was just saying things will likely never even begin to rival the Twitters and Instagrams out there contrary to what some utopists among us tend to think...
  - lorean_victor 3y ago
    no worries, I have worked as a product manager for a few products that "the real world" seems to care about, and I fully understand your sentiment. that's even why I've dedicated the last segment of the post to basically "who cares?" (I suspect some "real people" might since they can get everything in one place instead of having to follow people in 6 different places, but not sure how strong of an incentive that is). also having had the privilege of observing a few products that have found "real world" usage, I actually believe that "nerdy passion" is key, though of course without considering USABILITY and CONVENIENCE (as you've put it), it wouldn't get far.
alexisread 3y ago
I'd suggest it's more of a journey, with convenience and usability at the start. Witness many youtube creatives trying to jump ship wrt to cut of the monetization, changes in monetization eg. longform videos, shadowbanning, and so on. These are secondary, perhaps more subtle, considerations that come to the fore after a while, and illustrate the dichotomy between platform reach and endorsing that platform. Fundamentally I think we are still dealing with hard decentralised problems - Small world networks are better understood from a tech perspective. AT-protocol, zksnarks, DIDs, lattice types and the like are fertile ground for exploration that MAY yield new advantages in this problem space. UX can follow the function.

lorean_victor 3y ago

You are right I'm sorry. I wasn't notified that anything discussed on these forums should be exclusively about whatever "the real world" cares about at least one bit (preferably 8 bits or more I guess?). Ah the nerds, when will we understand, indeed.

jdthedisciple 3y ago
Yo don't take my comment in bad faith, I was being tongue-in-cheek sarcastic. Obviously "we" here on HN care about the idea itself/tech ... Was just saying things will likely never even begin to rival the Twitters and Instagrams out there contrary to what some utopists among us tend to think...
- lorean_victor 3y ago
  no worries, I have worked as a product manager for a few products that "the real world" seems to care about, and I fully understand your sentiment. that's even why I've dedicated the last segment of the post to basically "who cares?" (I suspect some "real people" might since they can get everything in one place instead of having to follow people in 6 different places, but not sure how strong of an incentive that is). also having had the privilege of observing a few products that have found "real world" usage, I actually believe that "nerdy passion" is key, though of course without considering USABILITY and CONVENIENCE (as you've put it), it wouldn't get far.

alexisread 3y ago

I'd suggest it's more of a journey, with convenience and usability at the start. Witness many youtube creatives trying to jump ship wrt to cut of the monetization, changes in monetization eg. longform videos, shadowbanning, and so on. These are secondary, perhaps more subtle, considerations that come to the fore after a while, and illustrate the dichotomy between platform reach and endorsing that platform. Fundamentally I think we are still dealing with hard decentralised problems - Small world networks are better understood from a tech perspective. AT-protocol, zksnarks, DIDs, lattice types and the like are fertile ground for exploration that MAY yield new advantages in this problem space. UX can follow the function.