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While I want to be really excited about this, I am already terrified they'll give it a 'Foundation' treatment. E.g. take a great book, and then sort of re-write
by rixrax 3y ago
While I want to be really excited about this, I am already terrified they'll give it a 'Foundation' treatment. E.g. take a great book, and then sort of re-write it while re-using some names and elements from the original. Or the Sho-Gun treatment, where you take another great book, and turn it into visually beautiful, but soulless pseudo-reproduction of the book that lacks exactly the depth that made the book great.
So please Apple, give it a Lord of the Rings treatment. Or even Hobbit. Pretty please!
- huytersd 3y ago[flagged]
- rfarley04 3y agoIt makes me so so happy to hear someone else complain about what they've done with Foundation. Considering the ratings (both from critics and audiences) I've seen, I was starting to question if I actually read Foundation or something else because the show is NOTHING like the books. It's not all bad per se, but just give it another name because they have nothing in common.
- kayodelycaon 3y agoI like the show but it is not like the books at all. I was pretty bitterly disappointed until I realized I could just see the show as inspired by the books. The same way I’ve written stories. I just had the respect to file the serial numbers off in editing.
- prpl 3y agoI’ve read 5 of the books, I’m fine with the adaptation. The books all but make it impossible to have continuity of characters in any real way, which would make for a weird show, IMO. This is fundamentally different than LOTR which does have continuity (and even the hobbit), so I feel like that explains the character smearing (Gaal, Hari, Cletus) and time compression. The original books are great but honestly the characters aren’t even in the books long enough to really develop them beyond the crises at hand, it’s more like a collection of short stories (and I love short stories, but beyond Black Mirror I can’t think of any other sort of short stories series I like much).
- jjtheblunt 3y agoRoald Dahl short stories are very fun, purposefully dark humor in several.
- themadturk 3y agoI'm with you here. I read the books so long ago I barely remember them, and I'm not that fond of Asimov as writer. But I've enjoyed the series so far.
- rfarley04 3y agoOh man, I would've loved an anthology version of Foundation. Each episode covering one of Asimov's airtight Foundation vignettes. Or, maybe, just don't try to adapt things that don't work for TV? There's plenty of other incredible stuff waiting to be written. Someone needs to hurry up and film Hyperion, it would be hard but more doable than Foundation.
- Apocryphon 3y ago
- kranke155 3y agoIt all depends on the show runners. Looking at production studios is not a great metric for quality. It all depends on who is writing it and why.
- spywaregorilla 3y ago> So please Apple, give it a Lord of the Rings treatment. Or even Hobbit. Pretty please! The hobbit, imo, was the harbinger of high budget films rewritten for modern audiences into unrecognizable disasters.
- TillE 3y agoI love Neuromancer, but I feel like it's much more about the vibes than the plot per se. If you've got a good visual design and don't mess with the main characters and setting, it'll probably be good. I mean I like the Space Rastafarians, but I'm not sure they're essential.
- 2OEH8eoCRo0 3y agoWe monitor many frequencies. We listen always. Came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. It played us a mighty dub.
- duskwuff 3y ago> I mean I like the Space Rastafarians, but I'm not sure they're essential. It'd be a shame to lose one of the best stealth puns I've ever seen in literature.
- mandmandam 3y agoPlease elaborate ... As much as I loved the book, I don't really want to read that ending again.
- duskwuff 3y agoThey got so high that they ended up in space.
- WA 3y agoSame with Silo. They changed it in unnecessary and outright stupid ways. I‘m on team "book is way better".
- flopsamjetsam 3y agoI've watched the series, but never read the books. How do they differ?
- mark242 3y agoI would be okay if they gave it the Peripheral treatment, which is to say it doesn't need to be 100% like the book. It would be better if Case's ono-sendai rig was something a little more modern than the original vision of essentially an Atari ST. It would be hilarious as hell if Wintermute started hallucinating like a GPT. The vision of Chiba City has been done a million times over; what if, instead of trying to just remake the street scenes of Blade Runner, we got something completely different? I'd be okay with that.
- Apocryphon 3y agoShōgun just came out and is getting unanimous rave reviews. What don't you like about it?
- themadturk 3y agoI read the book three times, saw the original 1980 series twice, and saw the first ep. of the new series last night. I was impressed.
- eitally 3y agoHaving just finished The Three Body Problem series, I am having similar feelings about Netflix's treatment of it.
- Kluggy 3y agoDid you watch https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-Body https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-Body ? It’s available on Amazon prime.
- throwaway17_17 3y agoIt is also available on Youtube on Tencent's channel. I'd assume the resolution may be higher on Amazon, but for watching on a phone screen the Youtube video was certainly good enough for me.
- atombender 3y agoThe Netflix series doesn't premiere until next month. The Chinese show produced by Tencent was not made by Netflix.
- anomaly_ 3y ago>I am already terrified they'll give it a 'Foundation' treatment. What does your heart tell you?
- caycep 3y agoyea the whole Foundation thing makes me nervous about this!
- fullshark 3y agoThat's the current playbook. Take incredible IP, throw production values at it, the script is just a map to get from marketing image to marketing image.
- username135 3y agoHad me with LotR, lost me on The Hobbit