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I don't know how "avoiding the sun" qualifies as "healthy." To me, the idea that one should avoid being outside is indicative that whatever you're doing, it's n
by keiferski 3y ago
I don't know how "avoiding the sun" qualifies as "healthy." To me, the idea that one should avoid being outside is indicative that whatever you're doing, it's not culturally healthy.
- ivanhoe 3y agoThe concern with the Sun is that UV rays are damaging the elastin and collagen proteins in our skin - so the real goal is to avoid the direct UV radiation as much as realistically possible, not to never see the sunlight. :) In fact, sunlight exposure is very important for other crucial mechanisms in our body like melatonin regulation and D vitamin production. You still can have all the benefits and fun by simply being more active in morning and sunset, avoiding midday exposure (which is already part of the culture in many sunny regions), and wearing the sunscreen and proper clothing to protect your skin. Of course, how much UV exposure do you need for you body to function normally and not let sun ruin your skin depends primarily on where you live, is it summer or winter, etc. It all comes down to limiting how much UV radiation you'll get. If you're dark skinned it also helps - the melanin in your skin acts as an additional layer of protection against UV rays.
- kingkongjaffa 3y agoHe’s mostly taking a shit load of vitamin D and E to offset this and wearing sunscreen religiously. He doesn’t literally not go outside but he is ghostly pale.
- nradov 3y agoVitamin supplements are not adequate to replace direct sunlight exposure. It has other beneficial effects including stimulating nitric oxide production. Everything in moderation.
- devmor 3y agoI don’t think that something being physically healthy necessarily means it is mentally healthy.
- bananapub 3y agowhat? UV radiation is clearly bad in anything more than enough-to-get-enough-vitamin-D doses. depending on where you are in the world, sunblock might be enough to keep you on the good side, elsewhere (e.g. Australia) there are elaborate cultural rituals to reduce radiation exposure to safe levels (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slip-Slop-Slap https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slip-Slop-Slap).
- keiferski 3y agoBecause to me, pumping yourself full of various supplements and hiding inside is just about the opposite of what I'd call a mentally healthy person, and is more indicative of how disconnected from reality parts of contemporary Western culture have become.
- scruple 3y agoToss in the blood boy stuff and it starts to look like a form of modern era vampirism.
- rafaelero 3y agoOr you can just use a sunscreen everyday and get the best of both worlds :)
- strken 3y agoThe link between wearing long sleeves, sunscreen, and a hat when outdoors for any length of time in high UV environments (e.g. anywhere near the hole in the ozone layer when it's not midwinter) and "how disconnected from reality parts of contemporary Western culture have become" is tenuous at best.
- pnutjam 3y agoSo you think this guy is "contemporary western culture"? He's catering to a bunch of dimwits, not contemporary culture anywhere. This is just AI cultism.
- keiferski 3y ago
- eterpstra 3y ago"Avoiding the sun" does not mean "avoid going outside" Long sleeves, hat, sunglasses go a long way to prevent burns and skin cancer. Sunscreen, too, but something tells me this guy doesn't do sunscreen. source: married to a dermatologist.
- makeitdouble 3y agoTo note, this advice is probably moot for people with high enough melanin living in low to mid sun exposure areas. Sunscreen becomes useful only when receiving sun doses that exceed skin's natural absorption capacity.
- nojs 3y agoThere’s increasing evidence you need the UV, eg https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5890609/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5890609/
- strken 3y agoIt's almost impossible to run a good UV exposure association study because going outside correlates with health. Everything clever you can do to get around that (UV-B areas are what the article chooses) runs into issues with introducing even more uncontrolled variables. I'm getting a bit jaded with vitamin D and UV studies and it's possible that one will come along and prove me wrong, but thus far they've generated a lot of hype but failed when experimentally tested.
- voisin 3y agoIsn’t the key to simply avoid burning, rather than cover up so much as to avoid exposure with the associated benefits?
- dappermanneke 3y agothere's some evidence that sun exposure reduces risk of hypertension via nitrogen signalling pathways, but if you already keep track of your blood pressure levels and they are healthy, unprotected sun exposure for longer than short periods is unequivocally a bad thing - at the very least, if your objective is to not look like a tanned leather sheet in your 40s onwards
- nradov 3y agoRick Rubin gets a lot of direct sunlight exposure and his skin looks pretty good for 60. https://youtu.be/GpgqXCkRO-w?si=b_pJPs1tIMLD5Shx https://youtu.be/GpgqXCkRO-w?si=b_pJPs1tIMLD5Shx
- Teknomancer 3y agoRick Rubin is looking good for his age. I postulate that he has very low stress levels and added that he surfs, he's got something good going for combatting age.
- dappermanneke 3y agoand my grandad was a chain smoker yet did not die of lung cancer. the question is do you want to gamble where you will be on that distribution?
- nradov 3y agoConsidering the many health benefits of sun exposure, yes I absolutely want to gamble (within reasonable limits). It's disingenuous to compare that to chain smoking.