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I’ve researched his work quite a bit. Its mostly taking a huge stack of supplements, diet and exercise. There’s peer reviewed evidence for most of the stuff h

I’ve researched his work quite a bit. Its mostly taking a huge stack of supplements, diet and exercise. There’s peer reviewed evidence for most of the stuff he is taking but barely anyone has done _all_ of the things together in concert like he is doing. There’s things we can learn from his work (optimising for the kinds of training to ward off common aging issues), like weightlifting to help fight off losing bone density. Targeting things like fall resistance and grip strength (things we lose fast as we age) Avoiding the sun to avoid aging and skin cancer. There’s lots of good things we could be doing (the western diet is really poor in fibre and healthy fats) to stay healthier for longer. Afaict the whole “nation of immortals” thing is just marketing from this author not anything that they (Johnson) said they wanted to do.

swader999 3y ago
As soon as I hear supplements, I get wary. It's a lot of work to figure out if each supplement is in fact legitimately what you are paying for.
- nradov 3y ago
  If you buy supplements on the NSF Certified for Sport list then you can be reasonably confident that you're legitimately getting what you are paying for. https://www.nsfsport.com/ https://www.nsfsport.com/
  - scruple 3y ago
    In decades of being in athletics and lifting I had never come across this before. Thank you for posting this.
  - swader999 3y ago
    Thanks!
cassianoleal 3y ago
> weightlifting to help fight off losing bone density. Targeting things like fall resistance and grip strength (things we lose fast as we age) Rock climbing. You're constantly lifting your own weight + gear. You fall a lot (especially bouldering) and need to learn to do it efficiently to avoid injuries. I don't think I need to say anything about grip strength here. :P
- kingkongjaffa 3y ago
  Yeah bouldering is a great strength/flexibilty/problem solving/impact sport. I try to go bouldering a few times a month.
  - carlmr 3y ago
    Strength/problem solving/impact I can agree on. But flexibility has to be added to your routine.
    - kingkongjaffa 3y ago
      I was thinking more of the inverse, I actively do flexibility/mobility work so that I can be a better climber.
      - carlmr 3y ago
        True, I just think pure climbing is a poor flexibility training. But flexibility training is indeed very useful for climbing.
    - cassianoleal 3y ago
      Climbing can help with flexibility/mobility of some parts of your body but I agree it requires to be added on for others.
  - cassianoleal 3y ago
    I'm more of a sport climber myself. I enjoy the longer time on the route, the mental job of keeping my wits when my arms are about to give up and I can't figure out the next clip... Plus it's a lot easier on the joints! I still boulder a few times a month though, I especially enjoy the social aspects which tend to be more present than on sport sessions.
keiferski 3y ago
I don't know how "avoiding the sun" qualifies as "healthy." To me, the idea that one should avoid being outside is indicative that whatever you're doing, it's not culturally healthy.
- ivanhoe 3y ago
  The concern with the Sun is that UV rays are damaging the elastin and collagen proteins in our skin - so the real goal is to avoid the direct UV radiation as much as realistically possible, not to never see the sunlight. :) In fact, sunlight exposure is very important for other crucial mechanisms in our body like melatonin regulation and D vitamin production. You still can have all the benefits and fun by simply being more active in morning and sunset, avoiding midday exposure (which is already part of the culture in many sunny regions), and wearing the sunscreen and proper clothing to protect your skin. Of course, how much UV exposure do you need for you body to function normally and not let sun ruin your skin depends primarily on where you live, is it summer or winter, etc. It all comes down to limiting how much UV radiation you'll get. If you're dark skinned it also helps - the melanin in your skin acts as an additional layer of protection against UV rays.
- kingkongjaffa 3y ago
  He’s mostly taking a shit load of vitamin D and E to offset this and wearing sunscreen religiously. He doesn’t literally not go outside but he is ghostly pale.
  - nradov 3y ago
    Vitamin supplements are not adequate to replace direct sunlight exposure. It has other beneficial effects including stimulating nitric oxide production. Everything in moderation.
- devmor 3y ago
  I don’t think that something being physically healthy necessarily means it is mentally healthy.
- bananapub 3y ago
scott_s 3y ago
Johnson's whole schtick is "Don't Die", so "nation of immortals" is a logical consequence of that. See, for example, his book he wrote: https://protocol.bryanjohnson.com/DONT-DIE-by-Zero https://protocol.bryanjohnson.com/DONT-DIE-by-Zero Or a NYT piece from earlier in the year which was heavy on that slogan: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/12/business/bryan-johnson-longevity-blueprint.html https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/12/business/bryan-johnson-lo...

swader999 3y ago

As soon as I hear supplements, I get wary. It's a lot of work to figure out if each supplement is in fact legitimately what you are paying for.

nradov 3y ago
If you buy supplements on the NSF Certified for Sport list then you can be reasonably confident that you're legitimately getting what you are paying for. https://www.nsfsport.com/ https://www.nsfsport.com/
- scruple 3y ago
  In decades of being in athletics and lifting I had never come across this before. Thank you for posting this.
- swader999 3y ago
  Thanks!

cassianoleal 3y ago

> weightlifting to help fight off losing bone density. Targeting things like fall resistance and grip strength (things we lose fast as we age) Rock climbing. You're constantly lifting your own weight + gear. You fall a lot (especially bouldering) and need to learn to do it efficiently to avoid injuries. I don't think I need to say anything about grip strength here. :P

kingkongjaffa 3y ago
Yeah bouldering is a great strength/flexibilty/problem solving/impact sport. I try to go bouldering a few times a month.
- carlmr 3y ago
  Strength/problem solving/impact I can agree on. But flexibility has to be added to your routine.
  - kingkongjaffa 3y ago
    I was thinking more of the inverse, I actively do flexibility/mobility work so that I can be a better climber.
    - carlmr 3y ago
      True, I just think pure climbing is a poor flexibility training. But flexibility training is indeed very useful for climbing.
  - cassianoleal 3y ago
    Climbing can help with flexibility/mobility of some parts of your body but I agree it requires to be added on for others.
- cassianoleal 3y ago
  I'm more of a sport climber myself. I enjoy the longer time on the route, the mental job of keeping my wits when my arms are about to give up and I can't figure out the next clip... Plus it's a lot easier on the joints! I still boulder a few times a month though, I especially enjoy the social aspects which tend to be more present than on sport sessions.

keiferski 3y ago

I don't know how "avoiding the sun" qualifies as "healthy." To me, the idea that one should avoid being outside is indicative that whatever you're doing, it's not culturally healthy.

ivanhoe 3y ago
The concern with the Sun is that UV rays are damaging the elastin and collagen proteins in our skin - so the real goal is to avoid the direct UV radiation as much as realistically possible, not to never see the sunlight. :) In fact, sunlight exposure is very important for other crucial mechanisms in our body like melatonin regulation and D vitamin production. You still can have all the benefits and fun by simply being more active in morning and sunset, avoiding midday exposure (which is already part of the culture in many sunny regions), and wearing the sunscreen and proper clothing to protect your skin. Of course, how much UV exposure do you need for you body to function normally and not let sun ruin your skin depends primarily on where you live, is it summer or winter, etc. It all comes down to limiting how much UV radiation you'll get. If you're dark skinned it also helps - the melanin in your skin acts as an additional layer of protection against UV rays.
kingkongjaffa 3y ago
He’s mostly taking a shit load of vitamin D and E to offset this and wearing sunscreen religiously. He doesn’t literally not go outside but he is ghostly pale.
- nradov 3y ago
  Vitamin supplements are not adequate to replace direct sunlight exposure. It has other beneficial effects including stimulating nitric oxide production. Everything in moderation.
devmor 3y ago
I don’t think that something being physically healthy necessarily means it is mentally healthy.
bananapub 3y ago

scott_s 3y ago

Johnson's whole schtick is "Don't Die", so "nation of immortals" is a logical consequence of that. See, for example, his book he wrote: https://protocol.bryanjohnson.com/DONT-DIE-by-Zero https://protocol.bryanjohnson.com/DONT-DIE-by-Zero Or a NYT piece from earlier in the year which was heavy on that slogan: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/12/business/bryan-johnson-longevity-blueprint.html https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/12/business/bryan-johnson-lo...