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46yr-old man claims to have a teen's body, wants to build nation of immortals
- interludead 3y agoIs it possible to maintain this kind of lifestyle if you are not a millionaire?
- scruple 3y agoPeople who chase longevity like Bryan has been really freak me out. I have a hard time accepting that they are anything other than obsessively afraid of their own mortality. And there's an extra something that's particularly sinister about it when they're also fabulously wealthy.
- dgeiser13 3y agoHe also has long covid.
- snapplebobapple 3y agoDo people really, seriously want to live forever? I'm in my 40's and I've had almost enough of being around all you other Eh holes already. Another 40-50 years of dealing with you is already approaching too much to handle... I kid, I kid, but seriously? why are these recent generations so obsessed with not dying? I'll be pleasantly surprised if I live forever but I'm focused on dying well eventually (that means leaving well rounded, non f'd up children to push for positive change after I'm gone and hopefully perpetuate the cycle, standing up to the obviously wrong BS when people spout it (marxist and otherwise), and trying to find and invest my excess wealth in things that push the production possibility frontier out rather than things that I can talk the government into allowing monopoly abuse and rent seeking profits forever on (the non excess wealth is invested in these monopoly abusers though, that's just sound retirement planning).
- qgin 3y agoBryan Johnson is an expert in using trolling to gain attention for his project. He frames what he's doing in a way that he knows people will love to hate, knowing he'll collect fans as part of the publicity.
- Geekette 3y agoArchive: https://archive.is/O0xPU https://archive.is/O0xPU
- quantified 3y agoHe's got his own blood boy! > Johnson has gotten experimental blood-plasma transfusions from his teenage son Living the dark humor some parents share. Or just being a vampire. You choose.
- jareklupinski 3y agoi never understood: why bother transfusing the younger blood in? if you simply donate blood, the blood that your body regenerates is arguably the 'newest' blood you can get
- quantified 3y agoIt's not about how fresh it is, it's the composition of it. A growing youngster has a different constitution than a middle-aged person.
- FirmwareBurner 3y ago>He's got his own blood boy! Gavin Belson?
- swader999 3y agoMontgomery Burns?
- allium 3y agoHe looks like he’s 65.
- devmor 3y agoSpecifically, he looks like a very old person with plastic surgery. He does not look like he’s still in his 40’s to me.
- kingkongjaffa 3y agoI’ve researched his work quite a bit. Its mostly taking a huge stack of supplements, diet and exercise. There’s peer reviewed evidence for most of the stuff he is taking but barely anyone has done _all_ of the things together in concert like he is doing. There’s things we can learn from his work (optimising for the kinds of training to ward off common aging issues), like weightlifting to help fight off losing bone density. Targeting things like fall resistance and grip strength (things we lose fast as we age) Avoiding the sun to avoid aging and skin cancer. There’s lots of good things we could be doing (the western diet is really poor in fibre and healthy fats) to stay healthier for longer. Afaict the whole “nation of immortals” thing is just marketing from this author not anything that they (Johnson) said they wanted to do.
- swader999 3y agoAs soon as I hear supplements, I get wary. It's a lot of work to figure out if each supplement is in fact legitimately what you are paying for.
- nradov 3y agoIf you buy supplements on the NSF Certified for Sport list then you can be reasonably confident that you're legitimately getting what you are paying for. https://www.nsfsport.com/ https://www.nsfsport.com/
- cassianoleal 3y ago> weightlifting to help fight off losing bone density. Targeting things like fall resistance and grip strength (things we lose fast as we age) Rock climbing. You're constantly lifting your own weight + gear. You fall a lot (especially bouldering) and need to learn to do it efficiently to avoid injuries. I don't think I need to say anything about grip strength here. :P
- bananapub 3y agowe really have indulged rich idiots too much.
- subtra3t 3y agoA cynic might call that the purpose of this forum.
- Sunspark 3y agoHe caught covid recently and it was tough on him. He self-reported in Feb on twitter "A mild case of Covid in Nov 2022 caused a loss of 15% of my lung capacity that I’ve not yet gotten back."
- swader999 3y agoWonder if it was from group deep breathing exercises in confined spaces.
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- slily 3y agoYou should update your OS.
- bdjsiqoocwk 3y agoDebian stable. Conservative, just the way I like it.
- carlmr 3y agoHe did get vaccinated though, according to his Xitter, in April 2021.
- drooby 3y agoDo you know that the vaccine does not completely prevent infection? It's actually likely to still get infected and have a mild case even with the vaccine and latest booster.
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- kevinsync 3y agoI wonder if this guy laughs, or truly enjoys anything in life. My computer is always on and never cracks a smile!
- eterpstra 3y agoHe's doing exactly what he wants with purpose and determination. Probably enjoying himself. It's not what I would do, but you know - to each his own.
- erikig 3y agoHe was on a 3hr comedy podcast and seems to have a great sense of humor about his regimen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAwePw-prCE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAwePw-prCE
- drcongo 3y agoI'm willing to believe this man has a teen's body, but I also suspect it's buried under his patio.
- jpm_sd 3y ago"46yr-old man has mid-life crisis"
- subtra3t 3y ago"*Rich 46yr-old man has mid-life crisis"
- threetonesun 3y agoIf you consistently extend the length of your life you can keep your mid-life crisis going on indefinitely.
- classified 3y agoAnd I'm the emperor of China, building a nation of emperors.
- JCM9 3y agoHe looks like a dude in his late 40s or early 50s with a good skin care routine. Clearly there are things one can do to improve one’s heath. Most of that is not rocket science. Eat well, get enough sleep, and have some level of exercise. There are things to be learned from everything he’s doing, but obviously these aren’t practical things at scale. But the fact that he’s treating himself as a science experiment and sharing data/results is honorable. When he turns around and tries to sell folks things based on his “routine” (like really expensive olive oil) that’s when things look more sketch.
- interludead 3y agoAgree, being immortal and have a good health do not equel each other
- ConfusedDog 3y agoI just get single sourced extra virgin olive oil from Costco. Price is up a lot since last year. Bryan also sells dark chocolate or something. You don't have to buy from him. I don't think I'd enjoy 100% dark chocolate. 80-90% ones are fine.
- Doxin 3y agoYou should try single source 100% chocolate sometime. It's an acquired taste, but at least there's more flavor to it than just bitter.
- keiferski 3y agoUnfortunately, he seems to have gone far beyond the scientific mindset and is quite focused on pushing his pseudo-religious movement "Don't Die", replete with holy (olive) oil. It would be one thing if he was already 100 something and pushing these ideas post facto, but at this point, everything he's doing could turn out to have long-term negative effects. We simply don't know yet, because that's not how science works.
- yieldcrv 3y agoPublicists can engage in your delusions far longer than you have anything to sell
- erikig 3y agoAnd for as long as you are willing to pay them, and for a idle multi-millionaire looking to live forever, that's a long, long time.
- Perceval 3y agoReminds me a bit of Heinlein's Time Enough for Love
- booleandilemma 3y agoEven if all it took was blood transfusions from your son, would it be worth it?
- AnimalMuppet 3y agoDepends. What, if any, are the negative effects on my son? (And, I suppose, what are the negative effects on me? There's this guy in Terry Pratchett's Diskworld series that spends his life looking for the fountain of youth. This confuses Rincewind - why look for the fountain of youth while you're young? But the guy persists, and eventually finds it, and learns the hard way the really important thing nobody ever tells you: boil it first. The point is - or at least the point I took from it is - don't be so busy chasing living forever that you miss living.)
- mhb 3y agoPeter Attia seems a lot more credible and without the woo-woo.
- erikig 3y agoFor sure and he's also a practicing medical doctor who has a lot more at stake professionally.
- iandanforth 3y ago"Medicine 3.0" is pretty cringe-worthy though.
- bradley13 3y agoI've read about him before. He follows a pretty extreme "health" regime. He's pretty obsessed about living longer - but he isn't actually taking any time to live. While his regime obviously brings some benefits, it doesn't stop aging. Looking at him, it's pretty obvious that it doesn't. He is healthy for his age.
- JKCalhoun 3y agoYeah, having lived almost 60 years, living is kind of weird for me. By no means am I wanting to usher in oblivion, but the idea of just living and living and keeping on living seems not just tedious to me but also rather void of purpose. I have to confess though, raising my daughters to adulthood seems to have altered quite a bit of my psyche and sense of self such that, now that the nest is empty, I wonder from time to time what it is I am even still doing here. Having also retired what used to be hobbies to me have become my full time occupation ... and it feels almost hedonistic to just keep on like this.
- rokkitmensch 3y agoSome days on the lift, I feel this way too. "Why am I still doing this? Sit on the chair, slide down the mountain, queue up at the bottom, repeat." Then I go blazing down the hill, or spend time challenging myself with speed in the trees or catching up on all the freestyle stuff I never learned as a kid, and I forget all about the repetitive tedium of life. Until I sit back down on the lift.
- strken 3y agoHe reminds me a little of my ultralight hiker friend who uses a syringe to fill up his toothpaste tube and is currently experimenting with putting his feet inside ziplock bags instead of bringing camp shoes. This isn't a criticism of either of them. Some people are into micro-optimising their life and find it brings them joy. Maybe he's one of them.
- begueradj 3y agoThere is no way to become immortal because, at the end of each chromosome lays a set of DNA consequences called "teleomres". One of the missions of these telomeres is to fix the chromosome (DNA, to be specific) itself from the damages that result from cell divisions (in average, 1 million cells die in our body every second and the need to be replaced). Put it simply, telomeres are the mechanics of the chromosomes. The problem is this: by time, cell divisions also damage the telomeres themselves, and nothing can fix them: hence the fatal thing (cancer) is a matter of time to occur.
- trabant00 3y agoThere's a lot of details here and not pay walled: https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/biotech-millionaire-claimed-wild-routine-133706915.html https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/biotech-millionaire-claimed-... Some highlights: > 100 pills daily, team of 30 doctors, fat injected in his face, five to six "therapies" a day, millions spent. At this point he's claiming 5 years biological age reduction, he's in a full marketing campaign and he has started selling a line of supplements. I guess we'll see in 30-40 years if his claims have any merit but for now I'm gonna hold on buying anything.
- AnimalMuppet 3y agoYeah, that's a hard pass for me. But this could work out as a net profit for him, depending on how many people buy his line of supplements...
- zingababba 3y agoBut in 30-40 years it will be too late for you while he will be too young biologically to sell supplements any longer.
- diego_moita 3y agoIt is quite funny how rich & powerful people can become so pathetically pretentious. This pattern of "I am immensely smart, clairvoyant and blessed just because I'm slightly richer or more powerful than you" is something you can find everywhere: middle managers, tribal chiefs in Papua and Africa, warlords in the Middle East, gangsters in Latin America, "stable genius" politicians in North America, soccer players and pop stars in Europe, etc. It seems there is some self-reinforcing mechanism at play here: to become powerful first you need to convince others that you are powerful and convincingly pretend to be powerful.
- dghughes 3y agoFor all he's trying it may just boil down to his genetics. I've known heavy smokers who outlived their wife and children. You often see on the news Centenarians say they drank whisky each day, or eat bacon, or pray, or whatever. From my experience other than the obvious to be active, eat healthy (I don't see vegan as healthy, but vegetarian yes), consistent sleep being social is a big boost to people's lives. By being social I mean meet other people than your own family immediate family.
- baerrie 3y agoI read about this guy a while back. The most disconcerting thing about it to me was the amount of blood samples, etc that he sent away regularly to test himself. I can imagine the net effect of depleting your body of blood regularly for years can’t be good. Also if I remember correctly his son is also participating?
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