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I wonder for how long the will keep supporting X11.

ognarb 3y ago
KDE developer here. Probably for a few more years but there is no timeline yet, but then we do we will definitively announce it some times before (e.g. a year) and are likely to make the release before that an LTS version.
- p4bl0 3y ago
  Congrats on the mega-release to you and all the team who worked hard to get there! I really love KDE. I'm a small time contributor to the project but every time I've been very welcomed and guided all the way through the merging of my contributions on Kate and related projects (KTextEditor, KXMLGUI, etc.), and also Dolphin Plugins. I started using KDE after a very long time without any desktop environment at all, for years before, I did not even have a graphical file manager installed on my systems. I was pretty happy like this: everything was very efficient, no bloat was running on my system that I didn't chose to, I knew how everything worked, etc. Good times. One day I decided that I couldn't seriously continue to tell people to switch to Linux while not having a clue what it's like to use it as a muggle, so I decided to try installing a full DE and start using GUI for real (up to that point my only graphical applications were Firefox and Inkscape from time to time, even my emails were in Emacs etc). I made a bit of looking around to compare Gnome and KDE and decided that KDE was closer to what I'd like. It's now been a few years already and I love it, really. Anyway, all that to give more substance to my big thanks and congratulations :).
  - SomeoneFromCA 3y ago
    I personally like gnome a bit more, but it has terrible fractional scaling on hidpi.
- SomeoneFromCA 3y ago
  Font rendering on HiDPI was worse (slightly blurrier, many probably won't notice, but annoys me a lot) on Wayland than X11; probably because X11 had different scaling step, friendlier to the way freetype scales. Many other things just worked better on X11 than on Wayland. I wonder if the problem was solved in Plasma 6 (almost sure it was not).
  - ognarb 3y ago
    Qt6 now support the wayland fractional scaling protocol which should improve the situation quite a bit for applications ported to Qt6.
coffeeaddict1 3y ago
Core KDE apps like Krita still don't support Wayland natively, so my guess is that it will take years before they drop support.
- abrouwers 3y ago
  I'm ignorant, doesn't this come "for free" with Qt6 support? Krita is a bit of an exception, because it's still on Qt5, but "core KDE" apps, as released in kde-applications 24.02, are compiled against Qt6 on my arch install.
  - coffeeaddict1 3y ago
    Well, firstly the team still has to port Krita to Qt 6. That's not trivial because Qt 6 dropped support for Angle and Krita relied on it (especially on Windows where OpenGL drivers aren't the best). So they will need to figure that one out (last I heard they were thinking of manually patching Qt 6 to support Angle again). Secondarily, Qt 6 still has quite a few bugs (e.g. related to input) that will need fixing or patching so that Krita can use it.
    - abrouwers 3y ago
      Yeah, that's fair. I was more taking point with "Core KDE applications," where krita is more of an outlier compared to KDE Gear apps.

KDE developer here. Probably for a few more years but there is no timeline yet, but then we do we will definitively announce it some times before (e.g. a year) and are likely to make the release before that an LTS version.

p4bl0 3y ago
Congrats on the mega-release to you and all the team who worked hard to get there! I really love KDE. I'm a small time contributor to the project but every time I've been very welcomed and guided all the way through the merging of my contributions on Kate and related projects (KTextEditor, KXMLGUI, etc.), and also Dolphin Plugins. I started using KDE after a very long time without any desktop environment at all, for years before, I did not even have a graphical file manager installed on my systems. I was pretty happy like this: everything was very efficient, no bloat was running on my system that I didn't chose to, I knew how everything worked, etc. Good times. One day I decided that I couldn't seriously continue to tell people to switch to Linux while not having a clue what it's like to use it as a muggle, so I decided to try installing a full DE and start using GUI for real (up to that point my only graphical applications were Firefox and Inkscape from time to time, even my emails were in Emacs etc). I made a bit of looking around to compare Gnome and KDE and decided that KDE was closer to what I'd like. It's now been a few years already and I love it, really. Anyway, all that to give more substance to my big thanks and congratulations :).
- SomeoneFromCA 3y ago
  I personally like gnome a bit more, but it has terrible fractional scaling on hidpi.
SomeoneFromCA 3y ago
Font rendering on HiDPI was worse (slightly blurrier, many probably won't notice, but annoys me a lot) on Wayland than X11; probably because X11 had different scaling step, friendlier to the way freetype scales. Many other things just worked better on X11 than on Wayland. I wonder if the problem was solved in Plasma 6 (almost sure it was not).
- ognarb 3y ago
  Qt6 now support the wayland fractional scaling protocol which should improve the situation quite a bit for applications ported to Qt6.

coffeeaddict1 3y ago

Core KDE apps like Krita still don't support Wayland natively, so my guess is that it will take years before they drop support.

abrouwers 3y ago
I'm ignorant, doesn't this come "for free" with Qt6 support? Krita is a bit of an exception, because it's still on Qt5, but "core KDE" apps, as released in kde-applications 24.02, are compiled against Qt6 on my arch install.
- coffeeaddict1 3y ago
  Well, firstly the team still has to port Krita to Qt 6. That's not trivial because Qt 6 dropped support for Angle and Krita relied on it (especially on Windows where OpenGL drivers aren't the best). So they will need to figure that one out (last I heard they were thinking of manually patching Qt 6 to support Angle again). Secondarily, Qt 6 still has quite a few bugs (e.g. related to input) that will need fixing or patching so that Krita can use it.
  - abrouwers 3y ago
    Yeah, that's fair. I was more taking point with "Core KDE applications," where krita is more of an outlier compared to KDE Gear apps.