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His “antics” is why SpaceX became possible in the first place. If he cared what others think he wouldn’t have started it, and wouldn’t be who he is.

by ein0p 3y ago

refulgentis 3y ago
Hear hear! Without Elon, inter alia, pointing out the Democrat plan with Jewish support to take over the US political system via illegal immigrant votes replacing good honest Americans, SpaceX wouldn't have happened. Put an extra set of quotes around "antics", it's time to shame these short-sighted people. ~ Jonathan Swift, demonstrating Horatian satire, characterized by its attempt to raise questions with gentle humor rather than attacking -- that is characteristic of the Juvelian school of satire
- ein0p 3y ago
  What Elon is pointing out, in his own, unconventional way, is that this is not a game, and bringing in 30 million low skilled minimum wage earners (3+M in 2023 alone) of unknowable backgrounds is not conducive to national security or solvency. But your politics make you blind to that fact. Maybe the problem isn’t Elon in this case, wdyt?
  - refulgentis 3y ago
    Horatian satire is used to point out flaws in argumentation, without making people feel attacked, the idea is to put a smile on their face. I see now the idea is it is further evidence of Great Man theory to question Jewish involvement in this serious problem. So yes, not antics in your book. It makes me sad some subset of Congress decided this didn't need solving suddenly, for no apparent reason.
croes 3y ago
Without NASA money SpaceX wouldn't exist anymore
- neverrroot 3y ago
  They’re number one in the world and keep successfully launching like it’s just a game. They deliver.
  - croes 3y ago
    But deliver what exactly?
    - neverrroot 3y ago
      Results.
      - croes 3y ago
        But what is the benefit of these result? At the moment we put more debris into Earth's orbit, Star Link is nice but not a sustainable solution, same with many other satellites
        AnimalMuppet 3y ago
        In what way is it not sustainable?
        croes 3y ago
        Without constant replacement it's gone pretty fast.
        dotnet00 3y ago
        Which makes it sustainable... if it goes away shortly after you stop replacing it, it's not putting debris up there.
        croes 3y ago
        Needing constant rocket launches to provide a service isn't sustainable, Star Link is disposable
ehsankia 3y ago
Not sure we're referring to the same "antics". You cannot deny that Elon has changed as a person ever since he got hooked on Twitter. A lot of his personality and how he acts these days is very much focused on trying to get the most likes. Pre-Twitter "fame", it's true that he disregarded what others thought, but he also wasn't so focused on maximizing his likes either. Twitter was like heroine for him, and he now lives for the dopamine rush of going viral by pandering to lowest common denominator. He's far more focused on seeking attention.
- ein0p 3y ago
  Maybe he didn’t “change”. Maybe you just see more of him now, and see how he actually is, foot in mouth and all. People who got very rich very early often lack the “filter” - they don’t have to consider your opinion of them. In fact, considering it would probably be strongly counterproductive if they’re ambitious. Popular opinion is akin to a lawn mower - stick your head out too far above others and you’ll lose it. But that’s for you and I, that logic doesn’t really apply to centibillionaires.
  - ehsankia 3y ago
    Change likely wasn't the right word. Rather, Twitter "enables" him to be the worst version of himself, as you allude to. Point is, he's no longer focused on any big inspiring project and instead spends his days fighting stupid culture wars and posting shitty memes on X.
- dotnet00 3y ago
  Is it really so hard for you to accept that he's just being like any person and sharing what he finds to be worth sharing? He was always like this. He started SpaceX because he thought putting a dome on Mars within which plants would be grown would be inspiring. The only reason it wasn't on social media was because it wasn't really much of a thing at the time. He didn't care about the optics and tried to buy an ICBM from Russia for this purpose. To me that sounds like the same person as he is on social media.
  - 3y ago
ClumsyPilot 3y ago
> If he cared what others think he wouldn’t have Bought twitter and assigned an entire team to work overtime and figure out why his follower count is dropping? And banned the ‘Elon-jet’ account? And called cave diver that rescued children a pedo after Elon’s rescue - submarine failed?

His “antics” is why SpaceX became possible in the first place. If he cared what others think he wouldn’t have started it, and wouldn’t be who he is.

by ein0p 3y ago

His “antics” is why SpaceX became possible in the first place. If he cared what others think he wouldn’t have started it, and wouldn’t be who he is.

refulgentis 3y ago

Hear hear! Without Elon, inter alia, pointing out the Democrat plan with Jewish support to take over the US political system via illegal immigrant votes replacing good honest Americans, SpaceX wouldn't have happened. Put an extra set of quotes around "antics", it's time to shame these short-sighted people. ~ Jonathan Swift, demonstrating Horatian satire, characterized by its attempt to raise questions with gentle humor rather than attacking -- that is characteristic of the Juvelian school of satire

ein0p 3y ago
What Elon is pointing out, in his own, unconventional way, is that this is not a game, and bringing in 30 million low skilled minimum wage earners (3+M in 2023 alone) of unknowable backgrounds is not conducive to national security or solvency. But your politics make you blind to that fact. Maybe the problem isn’t Elon in this case, wdyt?
- refulgentis 3y ago
  Horatian satire is used to point out flaws in argumentation, without making people feel attacked, the idea is to put a smile on their face. I see now the idea is it is further evidence of Great Man theory to question Jewish involvement in this serious problem. So yes, not antics in your book. It makes me sad some subset of Congress decided this didn't need solving suddenly, for no apparent reason.

croes 3y ago

Without NASA money SpaceX wouldn't exist anymore

neverrroot 3y ago
They’re number one in the world and keep successfully launching like it’s just a game. They deliver.
- croes 3y ago
  But deliver what exactly?
  - neverrroot 3y ago
    Results.
    - croes 3y ago
      But what is the benefit of these result? At the moment we put more debris into Earth's orbit, Star Link is nice but not a sustainable solution, same with many other satellites
      - AnimalMuppet 3y ago
        In what way is it not sustainable?
        croes 3y ago
        Without constant replacement it's gone pretty fast.
        dotnet00 3y ago
        Which makes it sustainable... if it goes away shortly after you stop replacing it, it's not putting debris up there.
        croes 3y ago
        Needing constant rocket launches to provide a service isn't sustainable, Star Link is disposable

ehsankia 3y ago

Not sure we're referring to the same "antics". You cannot deny that Elon has changed as a person ever since he got hooked on Twitter. A lot of his personality and how he acts these days is very much focused on trying to get the most likes. Pre-Twitter "fame", it's true that he disregarded what others thought, but he also wasn't so focused on maximizing his likes either. Twitter was like heroine for him, and he now lives for the dopamine rush of going viral by pandering to lowest common denominator. He's far more focused on seeking attention.

ein0p 3y ago
Maybe he didn’t “change”. Maybe you just see more of him now, and see how he actually is, foot in mouth and all. People who got very rich very early often lack the “filter” - they don’t have to consider your opinion of them. In fact, considering it would probably be strongly counterproductive if they’re ambitious. Popular opinion is akin to a lawn mower - stick your head out too far above others and you’ll lose it. But that’s for you and I, that logic doesn’t really apply to centibillionaires.
- ehsankia 3y ago
  Change likely wasn't the right word. Rather, Twitter "enables" him to be the worst version of himself, as you allude to. Point is, he's no longer focused on any big inspiring project and instead spends his days fighting stupid culture wars and posting shitty memes on X.
dotnet00 3y ago
Is it really so hard for you to accept that he's just being like any person and sharing what he finds to be worth sharing? He was always like this. He started SpaceX because he thought putting a dome on Mars within which plants would be grown would be inspiring. The only reason it wasn't on social media was because it wasn't really much of a thing at the time. He didn't care about the optics and tried to buy an ICBM from Russia for this purpose. To me that sounds like the same person as he is on social media.
- 3y ago

ClumsyPilot 3y ago

> If he cared what others think he wouldn’t have Bought twitter and assigned an entire team to work overtime and figure out why his follower count is dropping? And banned the ‘Elon-jet’ account? And called cave diver that rescued children a pedo after Elon’s rescue - submarine failed?