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If I opened a laundromat I doubt I’d need to fill out something for the DOE. I think this is nothing more than another agency using the DOE for a conduit to ge

If I opened a laundromat I doubt I’d need to fill out something for the DOE. I think this is nothing more than another agency using the DOE for a conduit to get that information for them.

pasc1878 3y ago
A laundromat does not affect how much generation you need - crypto facilities can and have.
singleshot_ 3y ago
If thousands of people cooperate to create a global money laundering operation that directly affects the power grid it makes sense to request some information from them.
- alchemist1e9 3y ago
  Bugger off. Bitcoin is coming no matter what you think and eventually it will smack some responsibility into the irresponsible governments that are actually the biggest polluters and encouraging waste and consumption though endless fiat money printing and civilization scale money laundering.
  - singleshot_ 3y ago
    Lovely language. Bitcoin isn’t “coming,” it’s here and it’s a nightmare. People lose money down this drain every day and there’s next to no way to get it back. A serious transnational criminal problem that must be addressed and if the government wants to keep tabs on who profits from this, that’s be great.
    - alchemist1e9 3y ago
      Your assumptions couldn’t be more misguided. It’s glaringly obvious you’re part of the collectivist, statist, authoritarian crowd, like so many out there. But here’s the kicker: Bitcoin, with its Proof of Work (PoW) marvel, is cutting through the tyranny of your majority like a hot knife through butter. Bitcoin is already outperforming the sluggish efforts of the IMF and World Bank, breathing life into renewable energy projects in the most forgotten corners of the world. This is revolutionizing local economies and lifting standards of living, far from your narrow, outdated critiques. Now, let’s dissect the energy “problem.” Yes Bitcoin will eventually devour 1-2% of the planet’s energy, but calling it a problem is missing the point. This consumption is a beacon, signaling the dire need for more energy production. Bitcoin isn’t just sitting there; it’s actively pushing for energy innovation and sustainability, something your limited perspective fails to grasp. And who made you the arbiter of good versus bad energy use? Do cloud services, AI, gaming, and your mundane household activities get a free pass? The real issue is your lack of vision, stuck in a defeatist echo chamber. Bitcoin is addressing the massive demand for a currency that’s private, uncensored, and deflationary. You might not like it, but it’s because you’re too caught up playing traffic cop, basking in telling others what to do. You also overlook the ingenious utilization of Bitcoin’s ‘waste’ heat, a byproduct turned asset. This isn’t merely about keeping some servers running; it’s about a visionary leap towards using every joule of energy to its fullest. Bitcoin mining operations are pioneering the capture and repurposing of waste heat for practical, everyday uses - from water heaters in homes to boosting agricultural yields. Imagine a world where the excess heat from securing a decentralized financial network warms homes, powers greenhouses, and promotes sustainability. This isn’t a hypothetical future; it’s happening now. And as for the global energy supply, your argument falls short by ignoring the pressing necessity for a dramatic increase in energy production. To genuinely elevate the living standards of every human being on this planet out of poverty, we require energy solutions that are orders of magnitude greater than what’s currently available. Bitcoin’s energy consumption, far from being a wasteful curse, is a catalyst for this much-needed energy revolution, driving innovation and investment in renewable sources at a scale previously unimaginable. As for the financial drain, let’s get real. Over any 5-year span, Bitcoin has been a golden ticket compared to the sinking ship of fiat currency, plagued by inflation and collapse. Bitcoin is on track to eclipse Silver and even challenge Gold as a store of value. And all the supposed “problems”? Solved. Layer 2 solutions, altcoins, and stablecoins are gearing up to handle global transaction volumes, with Bitcoin as the unshakeable foundation. Your darling governments and their policies? More often than not, they’re the real hurdles to progress, wielding violence and spreading misery under the guise of collectivist and socialist dreams. And let’s not even start on the education system, brainwashing generations with fairytales instead of truth. Money laundering? Look in the mirror. The biggest laundromats are your central banks and government policies, sanctifying grand-scale financial crimes under the guise of legality. Bitcoin is the least of your worries if you’re genuinely concerned about corruption and illicit finance. You’re right, Bitcoin isn’t just coming; it’s already here, tearing down the facades of the leeches, parasites, and warmongers. With leaders who get it inching closer to power, we’re on the brink of a financial renaissance. Picture it: a Swiss bank account in every pocket, the ultimate nightmare for the likes of Obama and his collectivist cronies. And guess what? There’s nothing you can do to stop it.
      - singleshot_ 3y ago
        Hopefully you didn’t type all of that on my account, because I can’t possibly read or respond to this type of thing. Good luck in your pursuits.
        alchemist1e9 3y ago
        I have a repository of Bitcoin education materials which allows me to respond to the numerous uneducated comments like yours when I so choose.
        singleshot_ 3y ago
        Charming. I’m afraid you’ll find me immune to this disease.
        alchemist1e9 3y ago
        Don’t worry I’m used to collectivists suddenly having reading comprehension issues and being “too busy” to respond when faced with hard to counter arguments.
        singleshot_ 3y ago
        I would be entirely unsurprised to learn that you are very accustomed to conversations like this. Do you figure there’s a reason so many of your conversations turn out this way? Perhaps you choose very dim witted people to talk with? Maybe the problem is that you’re much smarter than everyone, so no matter who you converse with, they end up bowing out half way through because your ideas are too much for them? I gotta say, this must be a hard way to plow through life but I salute your endurance! Hopefully you manage to get everyone educated up to your level.
      - calamari4065 3y ago
        I need you to understand something. This comment is so utterly unhinged that it's either parody or something you take way, way too seriously. This is a caricature of the prototypical bitcoin bro that everyone makes fun of. Nonsense like this is the exact reason that people mock and dismiss cryptobros. You seem to not understand that someone can disagree with you without it being some grand conspiracy or authoritarian cabal. It is infinitely more likely that people disagree because they think you're a moron. People think you're a moron because you act like one. Spouting off about conspiracies and cabals and you've somehow pulled Obama into it? You aren't being dismissed because the big bad communists want to steal your bitcoins. You're being dismissed because you're pasting nine whole paragraphs of absolute insane ramblings.
bitfilped 3y ago
No you wouldn't, because your laundromat wouldn't be consuming MW-GW ranges of power.

If I opened a laundromat I doubt I’d need to fill out something for the DOE. I think this is nothing more than another agency using the DOE for a conduit to get that information for them.

pasc1878 3y ago

A laundromat does not affect how much generation you need - crypto facilities can and have.

singleshot_ 3y ago

If thousands of people cooperate to create a global money laundering operation that directly affects the power grid it makes sense to request some information from them.

alchemist1e9 3y ago
Bugger off. Bitcoin is coming no matter what you think and eventually it will smack some responsibility into the irresponsible governments that are actually the biggest polluters and encouraging waste and consumption though endless fiat money printing and civilization scale money laundering.
- singleshot_ 3y ago
  Lovely language. Bitcoin isn’t “coming,” it’s here and it’s a nightmare. People lose money down this drain every day and there’s next to no way to get it back. A serious transnational criminal problem that must be addressed and if the government wants to keep tabs on who profits from this, that’s be great.
  - alchemist1e9 3y ago
    Your assumptions couldn’t be more misguided. It’s glaringly obvious you’re part of the collectivist, statist, authoritarian crowd, like so many out there. But here’s the kicker: Bitcoin, with its Proof of Work (PoW) marvel, is cutting through the tyranny of your majority like a hot knife through butter. Bitcoin is already outperforming the sluggish efforts of the IMF and World Bank, breathing life into renewable energy projects in the most forgotten corners of the world. This is revolutionizing local economies and lifting standards of living, far from your narrow, outdated critiques. Now, let’s dissect the energy “problem.” Yes Bitcoin will eventually devour 1-2% of the planet’s energy, but calling it a problem is missing the point. This consumption is a beacon, signaling the dire need for more energy production. Bitcoin isn’t just sitting there; it’s actively pushing for energy innovation and sustainability, something your limited perspective fails to grasp. And who made you the arbiter of good versus bad energy use? Do cloud services, AI, gaming, and your mundane household activities get a free pass? The real issue is your lack of vision, stuck in a defeatist echo chamber. Bitcoin is addressing the massive demand for a currency that’s private, uncensored, and deflationary. You might not like it, but it’s because you’re too caught up playing traffic cop, basking in telling others what to do. You also overlook the ingenious utilization of Bitcoin’s ‘waste’ heat, a byproduct turned asset. This isn’t merely about keeping some servers running; it’s about a visionary leap towards using every joule of energy to its fullest. Bitcoin mining operations are pioneering the capture and repurposing of waste heat for practical, everyday uses - from water heaters in homes to boosting agricultural yields. Imagine a world where the excess heat from securing a decentralized financial network warms homes, powers greenhouses, and promotes sustainability. This isn’t a hypothetical future; it’s happening now. And as for the global energy supply, your argument falls short by ignoring the pressing necessity for a dramatic increase in energy production. To genuinely elevate the living standards of every human being on this planet out of poverty, we require energy solutions that are orders of magnitude greater than what’s currently available. Bitcoin’s energy consumption, far from being a wasteful curse, is a catalyst for this much-needed energy revolution, driving innovation and investment in renewable sources at a scale previously unimaginable. As for the financial drain, let’s get real. Over any 5-year span, Bitcoin has been a golden ticket compared to the sinking ship of fiat currency, plagued by inflation and collapse. Bitcoin is on track to eclipse Silver and even challenge Gold as a store of value. And all the supposed “problems”? Solved. Layer 2 solutions, altcoins, and stablecoins are gearing up to handle global transaction volumes, with Bitcoin as the unshakeable foundation. Your darling governments and their policies? More often than not, they’re the real hurdles to progress, wielding violence and spreading misery under the guise of collectivist and socialist dreams. And let’s not even start on the education system, brainwashing generations with fairytales instead of truth. Money laundering? Look in the mirror. The biggest laundromats are your central banks and government policies, sanctifying grand-scale financial crimes under the guise of legality. Bitcoin is the least of your worries if you’re genuinely concerned about corruption and illicit finance. You’re right, Bitcoin isn’t just coming; it’s already here, tearing down the facades of the leeches, parasites, and warmongers. With leaders who get it inching closer to power, we’re on the brink of a financial renaissance. Picture it: a Swiss bank account in every pocket, the ultimate nightmare for the likes of Obama and his collectivist cronies. And guess what? There’s nothing you can do to stop it.
    - singleshot_ 3y ago
      Hopefully you didn’t type all of that on my account, because I can’t possibly read or respond to this type of thing. Good luck in your pursuits.
      - alchemist1e9 3y ago
        I have a repository of Bitcoin education materials which allows me to respond to the numerous uneducated comments like yours when I so choose.
        singleshot_ 3y ago
        Charming. I’m afraid you’ll find me immune to this disease.
        alchemist1e9 3y ago
        Don’t worry I’m used to collectivists suddenly having reading comprehension issues and being “too busy” to respond when faced with hard to counter arguments.
        singleshot_ 3y ago
        I would be entirely unsurprised to learn that you are very accustomed to conversations like this. Do you figure there’s a reason so many of your conversations turn out this way? Perhaps you choose very dim witted people to talk with? Maybe the problem is that you’re much smarter than everyone, so no matter who you converse with, they end up bowing out half way through because your ideas are too much for them? I gotta say, this must be a hard way to plow through life but I salute your endurance! Hopefully you manage to get everyone educated up to your level.
    - calamari4065 3y ago
      I need you to understand something. This comment is so utterly unhinged that it's either parody or something you take way, way too seriously. This is a caricature of the prototypical bitcoin bro that everyone makes fun of. Nonsense like this is the exact reason that people mock and dismiss cryptobros. You seem to not understand that someone can disagree with you without it being some grand conspiracy or authoritarian cabal. It is infinitely more likely that people disagree because they think you're a moron. People think you're a moron because you act like one. Spouting off about conspiracies and cabals and you've somehow pulled Obama into it? You aren't being dismissed because the big bad communists want to steal your bitcoins. You're being dismissed because you're pasting nine whole paragraphs of absolute insane ramblings.

bitfilped 3y ago

No you wouldn't, because your laundromat wouldn't be consuming MW-GW ranges of power.