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It's big and extremely invasive, and asks questions that are none of the government's business, and definitely none of that agency's business. The form claims

by Canada 3y ago

It's big and extremely invasive, and asks questions that are none of the government's business, and definitely none of that agency's business. The form claims it should only take 30 minutes to complete. Laughable. It's 26 pages, and it's not simple, and it begins with a threat that being incorrect is a criminal offense.

bitfilped 3y ago
The stability and security of energy generation in the US is in fact the DOE's business.
- roamerz 3y ago
  If I opened a laundromat I doubt I’d need to fill out something for the DOE. I think this is nothing more than another agency using the DOE for a conduit to get that information for them.
  - pasc1878 3y ago
    A laundromat does not affect how much generation you need - crypto facilities can and have.
  - singleshot_ 3y ago
    If thousands of people cooperate to create a global money laundering operation that directly affects the power grid it makes sense to request some information from them.
    - alchemist1e9 3y ago
      Bugger off. Bitcoin is coming no matter what you think and eventually it will smack some responsibility into the irresponsible governments that are actually the biggest polluters and encouraging waste and consumption though endless fiat money printing and civilization scale money laundering.
      - singleshot_ 3y ago
        Lovely language. Bitcoin isn’t “coming,” it’s here and it’s a nightmare. People lose money down this drain every day and there’s next to no way to get it back. A serious transnational criminal problem that must be addressed and if the government wants to keep tabs on who profits from this, that’s be great.
        alchemist1e9 3y ago
        Your assumptions couldn’t be more misguided. It’s glaringly obvious you’re part of the collectivist, statist, authoritarian crowd, like so many out there. But here’s the kicker: Bitcoin, with its Proof of Work (PoW) marvel, is cutting through the tyranny of your majority like a hot knife through butter. Bitcoin is already outperforming the sluggish efforts of the IMF and World Bank, breathing life into renewable energy projects in the most forgotten corners of the world. This is revolutionizing local economies and lifting standards of living, far from your narrow, outdated critiques. Now, let’s dissect the energy “problem.” Yes Bitcoin will eventually devour 1-2% of the planet’s energy, but calling it a problem is missing the point. This consumption is a beacon, signaling the dire need for more energy production. Bitcoin isn’t just sitting there; it’s actively pushing for energy innovation and sustainability, something your limited perspective fails to grasp. And who made you the arbiter of good versus bad energy use? Do cloud services, AI, gaming, and your mundane household activities get a free pass? The real issue is your lack of vision, stuck in a defeatist echo chamber. Bitcoin is addressing the massive demand for a currency that’s private, uncensored, and deflationary. You might not like it, but it’s because you’re too caught up playing traffic cop, basking in telling others what to do. You also overlook the ingenious utilization of Bitcoin’s ‘waste’ heat, a byproduct turned asset. This isn’t merely about keeping some servers running; it’s about a visionary leap towards using every joule of energy to its fullest. Bitcoin mining operations are pioneering the capture and repurposing of waste heat for practical, everyday uses - from water heaters in homes to boosting agricultural yields. Imagine a world where the excess heat from securing a decentralized financial network warms homes, powers greenhouses, and promotes sustainability. This isn’t a hypothetical future; it’s happening now. And as for the global energy supply, your argument falls short by ignoring the pressing necessity for a dramatic increase in energy production. To genuinely elevate the living standards of every human being on this planet out of poverty, we require energy solutions that are orders of magnitude greater than what’s currently available. Bitcoin’s energy consumption, far from being a wasteful curse, is a catalyst for this much-needed energy revolution, driving innovation and investment in renewable sources at a scale previously unimaginable. As for the financial drain, let’s get real. Over any 5-year span, Bitcoin has been a golden ticket compared to the sinking ship of fiat currency, plagued by inflation and collapse. Bitcoin is on track to eclipse Silver and even challenge Gold as a store of value. And all the supposed “problems”? Solved. Layer 2 solutions, altcoins, and stablecoins are gearing up to handle global transaction volumes, with Bitcoin as the unshakeable foundation. Your darling governments and their policies? More often than not, they’re the real hurdles to progress, wielding violence and spreading misery under the guise of collectivist and socialist dreams. And let’s not even start on the education system, brainwashing generations with fairytales instead of truth. Money laundering? Look in the mirror. The biggest laundromats are your central banks and government policies, sanctifying grand-scale financial crimes under the guise of legality. Bitcoin is the least of your worries if you’re genuinely concerned about corruption and illicit finance. You’re right, Bitcoin isn’t just coming; it’s already here, tearing down the facades of the leeches, parasites, and warmongers. With leaders who get it inching closer to power, we’re on the brink of a financial renaissance. Picture it: a Swiss bank account in every pocket, the ultimate nightmare for the likes of Obama and his collectivist cronies. And guess what? There’s nothing you can do to stop it.
  - bitfilped 3y ago
    No you wouldn't, because your laundromat wouldn't be consuming MW-GW ranges of power.
- Canada 3y ago
  Then why is the first question fishing for info about what proof of stake validators are present? Why would they need to know the ages of the equipment? This is very obviously not about what they claim it is about.
Johnny555 3y ago
It's so long because it has a space for up to 10 crypto facilities, with 2 pages per facility. So basically 10 questions that need to be answered for a company that has a single crypto facility. And since power is such a large part of costs, I'd be surprised if most don't already know the answers to the power questions.

by Canada 3y ago

bitfilped 3y ago

The stability and security of energy generation in the US is in fact the DOE's business.

roamerz 3y ago
If I opened a laundromat I doubt I’d need to fill out something for the DOE. I think this is nothing more than another agency using the DOE for a conduit to get that information for them.
- pasc1878 3y ago
  A laundromat does not affect how much generation you need - crypto facilities can and have.
- singleshot_ 3y ago
  If thousands of people cooperate to create a global money laundering operation that directly affects the power grid it makes sense to request some information from them.
  - alchemist1e9 3y ago
    Bugger off. Bitcoin is coming no matter what you think and eventually it will smack some responsibility into the irresponsible governments that are actually the biggest polluters and encouraging waste and consumption though endless fiat money printing and civilization scale money laundering.
    - singleshot_ 3y ago
      Lovely language. Bitcoin isn’t “coming,” it’s here and it’s a nightmare. People lose money down this drain every day and there’s next to no way to get it back. A serious transnational criminal problem that must be addressed and if the government wants to keep tabs on who profits from this, that’s be great.
      - alchemist1e9 3y ago
        Your assumptions couldn’t be more misguided. It’s glaringly obvious you’re part of the collectivist, statist, authoritarian crowd, like so many out there. But here’s the kicker: Bitcoin, with its Proof of Work (PoW) marvel, is cutting through the tyranny of your majority like a hot knife through butter. Bitcoin is already outperforming the sluggish efforts of the IMF and World Bank, breathing life into renewable energy projects in the most forgotten corners of the world. This is revolutionizing local economies and lifting standards of living, far from your narrow, outdated critiques. Now, let’s dissect the energy “problem.” Yes Bitcoin will eventually devour 1-2% of the planet’s energy, but calling it a problem is missing the point. This consumption is a beacon, signaling the dire need for more energy production. Bitcoin isn’t just sitting there; it’s actively pushing for energy innovation and sustainability, something your limited perspective fails to grasp. And who made you the arbiter of good versus bad energy use? Do cloud services, AI, gaming, and your mundane household activities get a free pass? The real issue is your lack of vision, stuck in a defeatist echo chamber. Bitcoin is addressing the massive demand for a currency that’s private, uncensored, and deflationary. You might not like it, but it’s because you’re too caught up playing traffic cop, basking in telling others what to do. You also overlook the ingenious utilization of Bitcoin’s ‘waste’ heat, a byproduct turned asset. This isn’t merely about keeping some servers running; it’s about a visionary leap towards using every joule of energy to its fullest. Bitcoin mining operations are pioneering the capture and repurposing of waste heat for practical, everyday uses - from water heaters in homes to boosting agricultural yields. Imagine a world where the excess heat from securing a decentralized financial network warms homes, powers greenhouses, and promotes sustainability. This isn’t a hypothetical future; it’s happening now. And as for the global energy supply, your argument falls short by ignoring the pressing necessity for a dramatic increase in energy production. To genuinely elevate the living standards of every human being on this planet out of poverty, we require energy solutions that are orders of magnitude greater than what’s currently available. Bitcoin’s energy consumption, far from being a wasteful curse, is a catalyst for this much-needed energy revolution, driving innovation and investment in renewable sources at a scale previously unimaginable. As for the financial drain, let’s get real. Over any 5-year span, Bitcoin has been a golden ticket compared to the sinking ship of fiat currency, plagued by inflation and collapse. Bitcoin is on track to eclipse Silver and even challenge Gold as a store of value. And all the supposed “problems”? Solved. Layer 2 solutions, altcoins, and stablecoins are gearing up to handle global transaction volumes, with Bitcoin as the unshakeable foundation. Your darling governments and their policies? More often than not, they’re the real hurdles to progress, wielding violence and spreading misery under the guise of collectivist and socialist dreams. And let’s not even start on the education system, brainwashing generations with fairytales instead of truth. Money laundering? Look in the mirror. The biggest laundromats are your central banks and government policies, sanctifying grand-scale financial crimes under the guise of legality. Bitcoin is the least of your worries if you’re genuinely concerned about corruption and illicit finance. You’re right, Bitcoin isn’t just coming; it’s already here, tearing down the facades of the leeches, parasites, and warmongers. With leaders who get it inching closer to power, we’re on the brink of a financial renaissance. Picture it: a Swiss bank account in every pocket, the ultimate nightmare for the likes of Obama and his collectivist cronies. And guess what? There’s nothing you can do to stop it.
- bitfilped 3y ago
  No you wouldn't, because your laundromat wouldn't be consuming MW-GW ranges of power.
Canada 3y ago
Then why is the first question fishing for info about what proof of stake validators are present? Why would they need to know the ages of the equipment? This is very obviously not about what they claim it is about.

Johnny555 3y ago

It's so long because it has a space for up to 10 crypto facilities, with 2 pages per facility. So basically 10 questions that need to be answered for a company that has a single crypto facility. And since power is such a large part of costs, I'd be surprised if most don't already know the answers to the power questions.