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It's not easy, you need a multithousand dollar apple machine, and you can't share this app with anybody else.
by the_gipsy 3y ago
It's not easy, you need a multithousand dollar apple machine, and you can't share this app with anybody else.
- JimDabell 3y agoNo, you don’t. You need a Mac, but you don’t need to buy one. You can use a free tier on a build service like Bitrise if you don’t have a Mac.
- xandrius 3y agoBut don't you see how it is yet another hurdle? Android builds work on that same mac too.
- JimDabell 3y agoI didn’t say it wasn’t a hurdle, I said you don’t need a “multi thousand dollar Apple machine”. And the cheapest Macs cost way less than that anyway.
- the_gipsy 3y agoPerhaps technically possible, but in practice it's against apple development directives. I doubt you do this yourself, or know anyone that actually develops iOS apps from a non-mac in the real world. And you still can't share that app.
- JimDabell 3y ago> in practice it's against apple development directives. Most professional iOS developers use these kinds of services. They are totally commonplace and not against Apple’s terms in the slightest.
- the_gipsy 3y agoI feel you're being disingenuous. Close to zero professional iOS developers develop on a non-mac.
- JimDabell 3y agoThere isn’t a part of Apple’s terms where they say you are only allowed to use build servers if you are a professional iOS developer. Build servers are absolutely fine.
- the_gipsy 3y agoAgain disingenuous, I never said "not allowed". Oh and up until 2019 apple was forbidding any virtualization of macOS in its EULA, there certainly were no free cloud build servers for iOS since relatively recently.
- JimDabell 3y ago> there certainly were no free cloud build servers for iOS since relatively recently. There definitely were. Bitrise had a free plan back in 2014 and they weren’t the only ones. https://web.archive.org/web/20141103031325/http://www.bitrise.io/pricing https://web.archive.org/web/20141103031325/http://www.bitris... Are you an iOS developer? Because you are repeatedly taking what is considered run of the mill by iOS developers as if it were some outlandish concept you’ve never heard of before. Build servers – yes, with free tiers – have been commonplace for iOS apps for at least a decade.
- the_gipsy 3y agoYou're either being utterly blinded, or dishonest. I'll stop engaging with you. For the record, however: NOBODY DEVELOPS iOS APPS BY ONLY BUILDING IN THE CLOUD. NEITHER PROFESSIONALS NOR HOBBYISTS. NOBODY ON EARTH. Every iOS developer has a mac, because it's impossible to develop when you can only build 200 times per month (per your link). Yes, professional developers run some CI in the cloud, nobody cares.
- themoonisachees 3y agoMacOS TOS clearly state that if you're someone renting out access to macOS, you may only rent it for periods longer than 24h. I heavily doubt bitrise does that, as cost would be prohibitive (oh hey I wonder why that is)
- Geisterde 3y agoIn practice no one cares what apples development directives are?
- boxed 3y agoYou can get a cheap used mac. You're just being silly now.