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maybe you're just allergic to glyphosate, not wheat. glyphosate is in pretty much everything now

by teen 3y ago

shwaj 3y ago
This might be true for people in general, but people who have been diagnosed with Celiac disease are definitely allergic to wheat.
- k_process 3y ago
  https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3945755/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3945755/ "Glyphosate, pathways to modern diseases II: Celiac sprue and gluten intolerance" Here, we propose that glyphosate is the most important causal factor in this [celiac disease and gluten intolerance] epidemic.
  - refurb 3y ago
    Did you read the paper? My guess is no. Classic HN, references a paper as if the conclusions are fact and all references are equivalent. This is a paper where the authors did no experiments of their own, just put forth a hypotheses. The lead author is an “independent scientist”. Suffice to say I’d be very suspect of the conclusions drawn.
    - bigbillheck 3y ago
      > The lead author is an “independent scientist”. The other one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephanie_Seneff https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephanie_Seneff
      - refurb 3y ago
        Ooph… “In 2011, she began publishing controversial papers in low-impact, open access journals on biology and medical topics; the articles have received "heated objections from experts in almost every field she's delved into,"”
  - dahart 3y ago
    Don’t forget this awesome quote: “However, a recent paper (Samsel & Seneff, 2013), argued that glyphosate may be a key contributor to the obesity epidemic and the autism epidemic in the United States, as well as to several other diseases and conditions, such as Alzheimer's disease, Parkinson's disease, infertility, depression, and cancer.” It’s causing all the bad things? That would be amazing if true, unfortunately it sounds unlikely (chiropractic comes to mind) and the rest of the science world doesn’t believe these authors. If the graphs in the paper seem compelling, make sure to spend some time here: https://www.tylervigen.com/spurious-correlations https://www.tylervigen.com/spurious-correlations
- lm28469 3y ago
  Not wheat, gluten edit: for the downvotes, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coeliac_disease https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coeliac_disease > where individuals develop intolerance to gluten > Coeliac disease is caused by a reaction to gluten > While the disease is caused by a permanent intolerance to gluten proteins,[10] it is distinct from wheat allergy, which is much more rare
  - HardlyCognizant 3y ago
    Not even gluten, one of the peptides it is composed of. Prolamins like gliadin, horadin, etc. depending on the grain. This is why gluten denaturing proteases aren't sufficient to protect a celiac, and thus some technically GF foods aren't necessarily safe.
    - amluto 3y ago
      My impression has been that the real problems are: 1. The enzymes are not yet well tested. 2. Most enzymes one might purchase are subject to the extremely weak US supplement labeling laws and thus cannot be trusted. In any case, there’s an enzyme combo working its way through the FDA process right now: https://celiac.org/about-the-foundation/featured-news/2021/05/significant-clinical-progress-for-latiglutenase/ https://celiac.org/about-the-foundation/featured-news/2021/0...
    - yosito 3y ago
      Interesting! Tell me more! Do you have any sources where I can read more about this?
yosito 3y ago
I have celiac disease. When I eat foods that contain gluten or a similar protein, avenin, it triggers an immune reaction which causes inflammation and damage in my intestines. It's not an allergy, it's not a wheat allergy, it's not a glyphosate allergy. You may keep your uninformed opinion.

maybe you're just allergic to glyphosate, not wheat. glyphosate is in pretty much everything now

by teen 3y ago

maybe you're just allergic to glyphosate, not wheat. glyphosate is in pretty much everything now

This might be true for people in general, but people who have been diagnosed with Celiac disease are definitely allergic to wheat.

k_process 3y ago
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3945755/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3945755/ "Glyphosate, pathways to modern diseases II: Celiac sprue and gluten intolerance" Here, we propose that glyphosate is the most important causal factor in this [celiac disease and gluten intolerance] epidemic.
- refurb 3y ago
  Did you read the paper? My guess is no. Classic HN, references a paper as if the conclusions are fact and all references are equivalent. This is a paper where the authors did no experiments of their own, just put forth a hypotheses. The lead author is an “independent scientist”. Suffice to say I’d be very suspect of the conclusions drawn.
  - bigbillheck 3y ago
    > The lead author is an “independent scientist”. The other one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephanie_Seneff https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephanie_Seneff
    - refurb 3y ago
      Ooph… “In 2011, she began publishing controversial papers in low-impact, open access journals on biology and medical topics; the articles have received "heated objections from experts in almost every field she's delved into,"”
- dahart 3y ago
  Don’t forget this awesome quote: “However, a recent paper (Samsel & Seneff, 2013), argued that glyphosate may be a key contributor to the obesity epidemic and the autism epidemic in the United States, as well as to several other diseases and conditions, such as Alzheimer's disease, Parkinson's disease, infertility, depression, and cancer.” It’s causing all the bad things? That would be amazing if true, unfortunately it sounds unlikely (chiropractic comes to mind) and the rest of the science world doesn’t believe these authors. If the graphs in the paper seem compelling, make sure to spend some time here: https://www.tylervigen.com/spurious-correlations https://www.tylervigen.com/spurious-correlations
lm28469 3y ago
Not wheat, gluten edit: for the downvotes, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coeliac_disease https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coeliac_disease > where individuals develop intolerance to gluten > Coeliac disease is caused by a reaction to gluten > While the disease is caused by a permanent intolerance to gluten proteins,[10] it is distinct from wheat allergy, which is much more rare
- HardlyCognizant 3y ago
  Not even gluten, one of the peptides it is composed of. Prolamins like gliadin, horadin, etc. depending on the grain. This is why gluten denaturing proteases aren't sufficient to protect a celiac, and thus some technically GF foods aren't necessarily safe.
  - amluto 3y ago
    My impression has been that the real problems are: 1. The enzymes are not yet well tested. 2. Most enzymes one might purchase are subject to the extremely weak US supplement labeling laws and thus cannot be trusted. In any case, there’s an enzyme combo working its way through the FDA process right now: https://celiac.org/about-the-foundation/featured-news/2021/05/significant-clinical-progress-for-latiglutenase/ https://celiac.org/about-the-foundation/featured-news/2021/0...
  - yosito 3y ago
    Interesting! Tell me more! Do you have any sources where I can read more about this?

yosito 3y ago

I have celiac disease. When I eat foods that contain gluten or a similar protein, avenin, it triggers an immune reaction which causes inflammation and damage in my intestines. It's not an allergy, it's not a wheat allergy, it's not a glyphosate allergy. You may keep your uninformed opinion.