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What sorts of salary should French software engineers be making then? $80k? $100k? $200k?

by Hamuko 3y ago

isodev 3y ago
The expectation is that salaries are periodically adapted to improve people's "purchase power". In Belgium for example, the yearly "indexation" of salaries is mandatory with a minimum of the inflation value from the previous year.
- NicoJuicy 3y ago
  We also have the highest taxes in the world. So the government gets as much ( or more) benefit as the employee. Eoy bonus for having dinner a good work is almost pointless here. Since more than halve goes to the government.
  - isodev 3y ago
    It goes to the government so you can get it back in the form of public services, infrastructure, social welfare, healthcare, public amenities etc.
    - NicoJuicy 3y ago
      EU literally said that Belgium doesn't offer enough in return for those high taxes Eg. https://www.thebulletin.be/belgium-fails-provide-services-justify-high-tax-rates-report-finds https://www.thebulletin.be/belgium-fails-provide-services-ju...
wsc981 3y ago
As freelancer in The Netherlands it’s easy to earn 100.000 EUR a year. Can’t imagine it would be much different in France as freelancer. However, as freelancer it’s your own responsibility to save money for holidays, pension, sick leave, transportation, etcetera. However, in the end you should still be financially better of than a “wage slave” so to speak.
- dgellow 3y ago
  I don’t know about Netherlands but if you say it’s easy there, then France is different. It’s possible but not easy to earn 100k€ a year as a freelancer. Unless you work with companies located outside of the country, but then it’s mostly about luck and mostly for top performers, not really something I would consider easy or accessible to the average engineer.
johnnyanmac 3y ago
Based on the current strikes, the main point is less about their current salary and more that they are technically taking pay hits due to Ubisoft not giving raises that keep up with inflation. They are effectively making less money now that they were in 2022.

What sorts of salary should French software engineers be making then? $80k? $100k? $200k?

by Hamuko 3y ago

What sorts of salary should French software engineers be making then? $80k? $100k? $200k?

The expectation is that salaries are periodically adapted to improve people's "purchase power". In Belgium for example, the yearly "indexation" of salaries is mandatory with a minimum of the inflation value from the previous year.

NicoJuicy 3y ago
We also have the highest taxes in the world. So the government gets as much ( or more) benefit as the employee. Eoy bonus for having dinner a good work is almost pointless here. Since more than halve goes to the government.
- isodev 3y ago
  It goes to the government so you can get it back in the form of public services, infrastructure, social welfare, healthcare, public amenities etc.
  - NicoJuicy 3y ago
    EU literally said that Belgium doesn't offer enough in return for those high taxes Eg. https://www.thebulletin.be/belgium-fails-provide-services-justify-high-tax-rates-report-finds https://www.thebulletin.be/belgium-fails-provide-services-ju...

wsc981 3y ago

As freelancer in The Netherlands it’s easy to earn 100.000 EUR a year. Can’t imagine it would be much different in France as freelancer. However, as freelancer it’s your own responsibility to save money for holidays, pension, sick leave, transportation, etcetera. However, in the end you should still be financially better of than a “wage slave” so to speak.

dgellow 3y ago
I don’t know about Netherlands but if you say it’s easy there, then France is different. It’s possible but not easy to earn 100k€ a year as a freelancer. Unless you work with companies located outside of the country, but then it’s mostly about luck and mostly for top performers, not really something I would consider easy or accessible to the average engineer.

johnnyanmac 3y ago

Based on the current strikes, the main point is less about their current salary and more that they are technically taking pay hits due to Ubisoft not giving raises that keep up with inflation. They are effectively making less money now that they were in 2022.