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Did the developers intend their product to manipulate race in its outputs or not? It's a simpler question than these contorted reformulations you present. But
by xepriot 3y ago
Did the developers intend their product to manipulate race in its outputs or not? It's a simpler question than these contorted reformulations you present.
But probably not simple enough to pierce ideological bias. I'll ask instead: you really believe that it wasn't tested in historical and other contexts where white people were erased?
- ForHackernews 3y ago> I'll ask instead: you really believe that it wasn't tested in historical and other contexts where white people were erased? Occam's Razor: Of course it wasn't or they wouldn't have released such a ridiculous embarrassing product! C'mon, I think you're the one wearing blinders here.
- baobabKoodaa 3y ago> Of course it wasn't or they wouldn't have released such a ridiculous embarrassing product! Then please do explain why their first reaction was to double down on "diversity" in historical contexts, before eventually retreating?
- ForHackernews 3y agoBecause adding the word "diverse" to the text of to their output is a lot easier than retraining their model? They're always going to try for the easy fix first. Have you never tried tweaking the error text first before giving up and redesigning your form that's confusing users?
- baobabKoodaa 3y agoHmmh. Fair enough. I didn't think about it from the perspective of "error text", but now that I think in that mental model, I think you're right here.
- xepriot 3y agoWe'll see what comes out later, but I give it 90:10 odds that this behavior was seen in testing and accepted by developers/DEI commissars - the failure was in not forseeing the reaction of the non-DEI-extremist public. Of a piece with 'Google more or less explicitly said I won't be promoted because I'm White' stories.