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If this project is abandoned, what are the simple options for building graphical programs on Mac, Windows, and Linux?

by adfm 3y ago

fuzztester 3y ago
wxPython is somewhat simple for at least small apps. You need to know and install Python. One plus is that it has many example apps showing use of various widget and features of the toolkit.
brodo 3y ago
https://fyne.io/ https://fyne.io/
- oefrha 3y ago
  I've used fyne a couple times, and it couldn't handle something very basic: it couldn't render glyphs outside the built-in font and optionally, exactly one custom font (FYNE_FONT). Which means you're screwed or at least severely crippled if you want to support any kind of user-created content for an international user base. This problem has been brought up a million times on the issue tracker, and I don't think it has meaningfully advanced: https://github.com/fyne-io/fyne/issues/2572#issuecomment-1546104249 https://github.com/fyne-io/fyne/issues/2572#issuecomment-154...
quickthrower2 3y ago
Hate to say it. Electron.
- addandsubtract 3y ago
  Tauri: https://tauri.app/ https://tauri.app/
- al_borland 3y ago
  Looking at the electron documentation, it doesn’t seem nearly as beginner friendly. It mentions this… >this tutorial assumes you are generally familiar with Node and front-end web development basics. If you need to do some background reading before continuing Then goes on to say you shouldn’t just know web dev and Node, but also the CLI and git, as well as installing node.js and npm. Those are a lot of barriers to entry for a beginner who is looking for a quick win to get them to keep going.
macintux 3y ago
Flutter? Dart seems interesting, although the fact that it wanted to track my usage, while very on-brand for Google, was a big turn-off.
fpsvogel 3y ago
If you're specifically looking for something like Shoes, here are two similar projects in Ruby. Scarpe, a WIP revival of Shoes: https://github.com/scarpe-team/scarpe https://github.com/scarpe-team/scarpe Glimmer: https://github.com/AndyObtiva/glimmer https://github.com/AndyObtiva/glimmer
squarefoot 3y ago
Since you didn't explicitly mention Ruby, I would dare to suggest Lazarus, which is Free and open source, multi platform and produces compiled native code everywhere. https://www.lazarus-ide.org/ https://www.lazarus-ide.org/ That is the quickest and most straightforward way of making GUI applications I'm aware of, with the only drawback that it uses Object Pascal as supported language, but being it Open Source I can hope one day we'll see some support for other languages too.

If this project is abandoned, what are the simple options for building graphical programs on Mac, Windows, and Linux?

by adfm 3y ago

If this project is abandoned, what are the simple options for building graphical programs on Mac, Windows, and Linux?

wxPython is somewhat simple for at least small apps. You need to know and install Python. One plus is that it has many example apps showing use of various widget and features of the toolkit.

brodo 3y ago

https://fyne.io/ https://fyne.io/

oefrha 3y ago
I've used fyne a couple times, and it couldn't handle something very basic: it couldn't render glyphs outside the built-in font and optionally, exactly one custom font (FYNE_FONT). Which means you're screwed or at least severely crippled if you want to support any kind of user-created content for an international user base. This problem has been brought up a million times on the issue tracker, and I don't think it has meaningfully advanced: https://github.com/fyne-io/fyne/issues/2572#issuecomment-1546104249 https://github.com/fyne-io/fyne/issues/2572#issuecomment-154...

quickthrower2 3y ago

Hate to say it. Electron.

addandsubtract 3y ago
Tauri: https://tauri.app/ https://tauri.app/
al_borland 3y ago
Looking at the electron documentation, it doesn’t seem nearly as beginner friendly. It mentions this… >this tutorial assumes you are generally familiar with Node and front-end web development basics. If you need to do some background reading before continuing Then goes on to say you shouldn’t just know web dev and Node, but also the CLI and git, as well as installing node.js and npm. Those are a lot of barriers to entry for a beginner who is looking for a quick win to get them to keep going.

macintux 3y ago

Flutter? Dart seems interesting, although the fact that it wanted to track my usage, while very on-brand for Google, was a big turn-off.

fpsvogel 3y ago

If you're specifically looking for something like Shoes, here are two similar projects in Ruby. Scarpe, a WIP revival of Shoes: https://github.com/scarpe-team/scarpe https://github.com/scarpe-team/scarpe Glimmer: https://github.com/AndyObtiva/glimmer https://github.com/AndyObtiva/glimmer

squarefoot 3y ago

Since you didn't explicitly mention Ruby, I would dare to suggest Lazarus, which is Free and open source, multi platform and produces compiled native code everywhere. https://www.lazarus-ide.org/ https://www.lazarus-ide.org/ That is the quickest and most straightforward way of making GUI applications I'm aware of, with the only drawback that it uses Object Pascal as supported language, but being it Open Source I can hope one day we'll see some support for other languages too.