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He's probably dead. My two top picks for who Satoshi might be are Len Sassaman (died 2011) and Hal Finney (died 2014) There's little point in unmasking somebo
by nostrademons 3y ago
He's probably dead. My two top picks for who Satoshi might be are Len Sassaman (died 2011) and Hal Finney (died 2014)
There's little point in unmasking somebody who's already dead - their ability to influence future events is gone. So even if state intelligence surveys knew who it was, there'd be no benefit to unmasking it.
- api 3y agoThis would also neatly explain why the Satoshi coins have not moved.
- nostrademons 3y agoOr why Hal Finney was cryopreserved. :-)
- api 3y agoIn the future someone steals his frozen head to scan it and try to recover the Satoshi wallet keys...
- joering2 3y agoin the real real far future you don't need his head, but maybe a single hair or a bone? Assuming every DNA cell keeps all memories or perhaps like a chicken running with a cutoff head maybe if his hands to be reconstructed, given enough time over a keyboard he would finally "twich" a password? Just thinking out loud...
- TimeBearingDown 3y agoWhat. I don’t see any reason to believe this is remotely feasible, ever?
- themoonisachees 3y agoYou have played too much assassin's creed. DNA determinism has not been realistic ever.
- 123yawaworht456 3y agoAssassin's Creed thing is more like ancestral memory. DNA determinism is more of a Dune thing. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_technology_in_the_Dune_universe#Ghola https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_technology_in_the_Dune...
- spoonjim 3y agoYou need to read a middle school biology textbook
- speed_spread 3y agoAre you sure he's not cryptopreserved?
- wmf 3y agoHe couldn't upload himself to the blockchain because Ordinals hadn't been invented yet.
- _ugfj 3y agoPaul Le Roux also fits. He had the crypto knowledge and the coins haven't moved because he is in federal custody. He was also quite good at opsec.
- TFortunato 3y agoI don't know his story, but I had a little chuckle at the juxtaposition of "quite good at opsec" with "in federal custody"
- _ugfj 3y agoYou can be good and yet the heavy hand of the law still gets you. They got Escobar and "El Chapo" Guzmán too. And his operation was smaller than either of those fine gentlemen's.
- sangnoir 3y agoOne probably has to be perfect - not just good with opsec - to maintain anonymity from the government. The FBI has multiple side-channels, such as agents physically tracking if you're home at your "super-secure" 7-VPN computer when your Internet persona is active online
- Hamuko 3y agoYou can be perfect 999 times and still get fucked by that 1 mistake.
- alfnor 3y ago999 people can have a little opsec error and 1 person can still have perfect opsec.
- awaythrow999 3y agoIt's a riveting read https://magazine.atavist.com/the-mastermind/ https://magazine.atavist.com/the-mastermind/
- lukan 3y ago
- andirk 3y agoHal's final words to his family lead me to believe that he was not the creator of bitcoin.
- boppo1 3y agoSpare us a search please. The top results are final forum posts, not words with his family.
- andirk 3y agoLooking again, he _mentions_ what he told his children, but it's written on Bitcoin Talk. > "My bitcoins are stored in our safe deposit box, and my son and daughter are tech savvy. I think they're safe enough. I'm comfortable with my legacy." [0] It doesn't invalidate that he created Bitcoin, but what he wrote over the years sounds much more like a devoted hobbyist who was far from extremely wealthy, for example taking a public bus to UC Santa Barbara to do his research [1]. Once afflicted with ALS, he became an avid ALS fundraiser. For someone in 2014 with 1,000,000+ BTC @ ~$500 per, and trying to be anonymous, I doubt whoever Satoshi is would have taken the path that Hal did. [0] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=155054.0 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=155054.0 [1] https://web.archive.org/web/20130625223546/http://www.noozhawk.com/local_news/article/101710_hal_finney_als https://web.archive.org/web/20130625223546/http://www.noozha...
- boppo1 3y agoThank you!
- nostrademons 3y agoI know a few people with net worths in the 100s of millions (largely early Google employees, or founders of tech companies), and that sounds exactly like them. Honestly that's exactly what a well-adjusted rich person sounds like - they are "comfortable", "safe enough", and make every effort to downplay their wealth. (In the Finneys' case, they have particular reason to be circumspect because they were swatted and extorted for Bitcoin.). Most wealthy people are very quiet about their wealth; the Trumps and Musks are exceptions that disproportionately impact peoples' perception of what a wealthy person seems like simply because they show up in the news all the time.
- kristianp 3y agoSzabo is also a contender, apparently. 1. https://bitcoinwiki.org/wiki/nick-szabo https://bitcoinwiki.org/wiki/nick-szabo 2. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37794025 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37794025