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Two black box AIs duking it out to see if their users would be compatible for mating... What a time to be alive. How about this: people need to fucking go outs

Two black box AIs duking it out to see if their users would be compatible for mating... What a time to be alive. How about this: people need to fucking go outside, get hobbies, meet real people in the real world.

hn_throwaway_99 3y ago
Meet people in the real world?? And like talk to them? Scary!!
- doublerabbit 3y ago
  Not scary but hard when your niches are not exactly the 1%. I can talk untech and talk tech. But what the hell am I suppose to do to meet those where I'm a goth who uses FreeBSD, goes for evening strolls picking up litter for enjoyment, cynical enough that wants to see the earth burn while an environmentalist who has a dream of opening an animal sanctuary? Goes to the gym, sword fences and finds most of life bullshit oh and also a sword fencer and fire juggler? Has his shit together, mortgage and 35? Next up: HN dating.
  - hn_throwaway_99 3y ago
    > Not scary but hard when your niches are not exactly the 1%. I'll be a little blunt. You're not (and almost none us are) as much as a special snowflake as you may believe. Nearly everyone has unique and niche interests. But more importantly, your post seems to propose the idea that we should all be interested in the same things as our romantic partners. Where does this idea come from? Sure, I think it's important to share some things you like to do together, but I think it's much more important to share the same value system and ideals. Hobbies are just details. I don't care if my partner sword fences or not, but I do care that they can see it's important to me, and cares enough about my happiness to know that I should seek out and do the things I love.
    - doublerabbit 3y ago
      Of course. I'm not wanting nor advertising nor where everything much match 100% in common. That would be silly. I was just making a figure of speech that my interests, are those which are not topic of conversation that you would have at a bar or tavern nor really any other place were you would socialise to court. If the other party cannot resonate with the other persons hobbies or interests than as much care and love you give, it won't last; I'm just happy with fun and personality if I were to scrap all above. But I still hold belief that of if there are not mutual interests between one and another then the relationship cant grow. I don't disagree. Love and Care are ever so important; they are the basics to form the spark, to light the candle, however. The other party are too needing to be ready to engage in the passions you enjoy and that to share my passions I would need to take interest in vice versa. Incompatibilities are true and its not a percentage. Would you be ready to play with fire? Go out on cold wet rainy night with a litter picker and carry a dripping wet trash bag ring? Listen to me ramble on how I've configured vtnet jails which allows me to host jailed bhyve VMs? Because for me, the personality type I am is someone who would like to do them with me. The same goes for me if I was to be in a relationship I would like to do what you would want to do too. Compiling kernels till 2am and then going litter picking is my idea of fun. If not dorky. Not everything is going to gel but the comprise is to find an equal balance you both enjoy. That however only comes from an established relationship, which is hard when you don't connect and they don't give you the benefit of the doubt. My gripe is that when it comes to IT unless your kitted in the IT world its boring as * to anyone else. Goth is a niche outlet, stomping boots and wearing black isn't everyones taste and fire spinning is out there but fencing is an commitment. I don't hold the "woe is me, single forever" maturity. Life is too short for that. It will either will, or it won't. It's hard and depressing at times but hey, I'm proud of what I have interests in.
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  - freejazz 3y ago
    If you can only talk about your own niche interests, then you aren't as interesting as you think you are
    - doublerabbit 3y ago
      I'm ever happy to talk about many things and happy to listen to anyone. That's not the problem. It's not talking, it's more in generalities of what I enjoy is what is the niche. One story is that I was in Canada recently and was talking to a bloke on the bench listening to how he was kicked out and someone cheated on his wife. Although, whether to believe these stories is another thing. Sometimes people just want to be herd.
      - freejazz 3y ago
        If you can relate to others, how is having niche interests a relationship problem for you?
        doublerabbit 3y ago
        Because those who I meet don't want to share the same interests as me. The relationship isn't the problem. The meeting is.
        freejazz 3y ago
        Why do you expect people who you meet, who you are not in a relationship with, to share your interests? You don't need to share interests to talk about them, as you already pointed out. I remain confused by you and your alleged problem.
  - red-iron-pine 3y ago
    reminds me of the igotstandardsbro site about finding dudes of a certain income level, body mass, and height. the point of the site is that when you put your preferences in it's like 0.9% of the population. in that vein, what you're looking for is like 0.1%, and they may already be married. you're better off learning how to relate to the normies than holding out hope for any of that.
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ilikehurdles 3y ago
Those are proven ways to build lasting relationships while living a fulfilling life. That's incompatible with dating apps. Tech founders need repeat subscribers. They want to dangle the possibility of love as if it's a jackpot atop the slot machine in the casino. Sometimes someone wins, but the goal is to get as many people as possible to believe that can be them if only they keep spinning the wheel as many times as possible in a gamified caricature of dating.
- jprete 3y ago
  I can't understand how anyone thinks we're capable of aligning AGI when we can't even align tech founders. Corporations are a proto-AGI, and they're the least aligned entities I can think of.
- tempoponet 3y ago
  Divorce rates were skyrocketing before online dating became mainstream, so I'd challenge your statement that meeting IRL "build(s) lasting relationships while living a fulfilling life". The truth is most people are meeting their spouses in the apps, as painful as it is. Bars are far worse for most people, and many people don't want to get hit on at the gym, while running errands, or at their job.
Applejinx 3y ago
That was actually one of the better Black Mirror episodes. Wouldn't want to be those avatars, mind you.

hn_throwaway_99 3y ago

Meet people in the real world?? And like talk to them? Scary!!

doublerabbit 3y ago
Not scary but hard when your niches are not exactly the 1%. I can talk untech and talk tech. But what the hell am I suppose to do to meet those where I'm a goth who uses FreeBSD, goes for evening strolls picking up litter for enjoyment, cynical enough that wants to see the earth burn while an environmentalist who has a dream of opening an animal sanctuary? Goes to the gym, sword fences and finds most of life bullshit oh and also a sword fencer and fire juggler? Has his shit together, mortgage and 35? Next up: HN dating.
- hn_throwaway_99 3y ago
  > Not scary but hard when your niches are not exactly the 1%. I'll be a little blunt. You're not (and almost none us are) as much as a special snowflake as you may believe. Nearly everyone has unique and niche interests. But more importantly, your post seems to propose the idea that we should all be interested in the same things as our romantic partners. Where does this idea come from? Sure, I think it's important to share some things you like to do together, but I think it's much more important to share the same value system and ideals. Hobbies are just details. I don't care if my partner sword fences or not, but I do care that they can see it's important to me, and cares enough about my happiness to know that I should seek out and do the things I love.
  - doublerabbit 3y ago
    Of course. I'm not wanting nor advertising nor where everything much match 100% in common. That would be silly. I was just making a figure of speech that my interests, are those which are not topic of conversation that you would have at a bar or tavern nor really any other place were you would socialise to court. If the other party cannot resonate with the other persons hobbies or interests than as much care and love you give, it won't last; I'm just happy with fun and personality if I were to scrap all above. But I still hold belief that of if there are not mutual interests between one and another then the relationship cant grow. I don't disagree. Love and Care are ever so important; they are the basics to form the spark, to light the candle, however. The other party are too needing to be ready to engage in the passions you enjoy and that to share my passions I would need to take interest in vice versa. Incompatibilities are true and its not a percentage. Would you be ready to play with fire? Go out on cold wet rainy night with a litter picker and carry a dripping wet trash bag ring? Listen to me ramble on how I've configured vtnet jails which allows me to host jailed bhyve VMs? Because for me, the personality type I am is someone who would like to do them with me. The same goes for me if I was to be in a relationship I would like to do what you would want to do too. Compiling kernels till 2am and then going litter picking is my idea of fun. If not dorky. Not everything is going to gel but the comprise is to find an equal balance you both enjoy. That however only comes from an established relationship, which is hard when you don't connect and they don't give you the benefit of the doubt. My gripe is that when it comes to IT unless your kitted in the IT world its boring as * to anyone else. Goth is a niche outlet, stomping boots and wearing black isn't everyones taste and fire spinning is out there but fencing is an commitment. I don't hold the "woe is me, single forever" maturity. Life is too short for that. It will either will, or it won't. It's hard and depressing at times but hey, I'm proud of what I have interests in.
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- freejazz 3y ago
  If you can only talk about your own niche interests, then you aren't as interesting as you think you are
  - doublerabbit 3y ago
    I'm ever happy to talk about many things and happy to listen to anyone. That's not the problem. It's not talking, it's more in generalities of what I enjoy is what is the niche. One story is that I was in Canada recently and was talking to a bloke on the bench listening to how he was kicked out and someone cheated on his wife. Although, whether to believe these stories is another thing. Sometimes people just want to be herd.
    - freejazz 3y ago
      If you can relate to others, how is having niche interests a relationship problem for you?
      - doublerabbit 3y ago
        Because those who I meet don't want to share the same interests as me. The relationship isn't the problem. The meeting is.
        freejazz 3y ago
        Why do you expect people who you meet, who you are not in a relationship with, to share your interests? You don't need to share interests to talk about them, as you already pointed out. I remain confused by you and your alleged problem.
- red-iron-pine 3y ago
  reminds me of the igotstandardsbro site about finding dudes of a certain income level, body mass, and height. the point of the site is that when you put your preferences in it's like 0.9% of the population. in that vein, what you're looking for is like 0.1%, and they may already be married. you're better off learning how to relate to the normies than holding out hope for any of that.
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ilikehurdles 3y ago

Those are proven ways to build lasting relationships while living a fulfilling life. That's incompatible with dating apps. Tech founders need repeat subscribers. They want to dangle the possibility of love as if it's a jackpot atop the slot machine in the casino. Sometimes someone wins, but the goal is to get as many people as possible to believe that can be them if only they keep spinning the wheel as many times as possible in a gamified caricature of dating.

jprete 3y ago
I can't understand how anyone thinks we're capable of aligning AGI when we can't even align tech founders. Corporations are a proto-AGI, and they're the least aligned entities I can think of.
tempoponet 3y ago
Divorce rates were skyrocketing before online dating became mainstream, so I'd challenge your statement that meeting IRL "build(s) lasting relationships while living a fulfilling life". The truth is most people are meeting their spouses in the apps, as painful as it is. Bars are far worse for most people, and many people don't want to get hit on at the gym, while running errands, or at their job.

Applejinx 3y ago

That was actually one of the better Black Mirror episodes. Wouldn't want to be those avatars, mind you.