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Nah, it will bifurcate the industry between people who have a mental model of how things work and people who only know how to press the code dispenser button. O

Nah, it will bifurcate the industry between people who have a mental model of how things work and people who only know how to press the code dispenser button. Offshore teams will be able to sling 10x times the slop 10x times faster.

FirmwareBurner 3y ago
>Offshore teams will be able to sling 10x times the slop 10x times faster Or it will reduce the demand for inexperienced juniors and offshore teams since you can replace their slop with AI slop.
- hooverd 3y ago
  Well, it's a good thing seniors are hired from the void fully trained. /s
  - FirmwareBurner 3y ago
    You laugh, but where I live the market for juniors (other than summer internships exclusively for currently enrolled university students) is basically zero right now. Every company is looking exclusively for seniors or at least mid level. They don't care that someone needs to train juniors in order to become seniors as long as it's someone else who has to do it. Companies can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent. So everyone keeps telling me how hot the SW dev market is right now due to all the openings and the high demand, meanwhile I'm only getting rejections because I don't have 3+ YoE in AWS, Kubernetes, Django/Flask, System Design, etc.
    - from-nibly 3y ago
      Who is saying the market is hot for the employees right now? It's dead as a doornail.
  - plorkyeran 3y ago
    This is a problem that a lot of fields have had (e.g. hand-crafted furniture). Technological advances killed the market for juniors but demand for seniors remained. In the short term it's completely fine, but then a few decades later there's not enough new seniors to match demand.
    - nradov 3y ago
      What is the correct quantity of "senior" furniture craftsmen? How do we know there is a shortage? Unless there has been enormous wage inflation in the past few years then I am skeptical of any shortage claims.
Buttons840 3y ago
And those who know what they're doing will have reliable work fixing the slop they made, but for less pay. (I say this because, judging by pay, building a new website, no matter how poorly, is more valuable then doing something like maintaining the banking systems.)
dartos 3y ago
This is true. The gap between seniors and juniors just gets bigger.

FirmwareBurner 3y ago

>Offshore teams will be able to sling 10x times the slop 10x times faster Or it will reduce the demand for inexperienced juniors and offshore teams since you can replace their slop with AI slop.

hooverd 3y ago
Well, it's a good thing seniors are hired from the void fully trained. /s
- FirmwareBurner 3y ago
  You laugh, but where I live the market for juniors (other than summer internships exclusively for currently enrolled university students) is basically zero right now. Every company is looking exclusively for seniors or at least mid level. They don't care that someone needs to train juniors in order to become seniors as long as it's someone else who has to do it. Companies can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent. So everyone keeps telling me how hot the SW dev market is right now due to all the openings and the high demand, meanwhile I'm only getting rejections because I don't have 3+ YoE in AWS, Kubernetes, Django/Flask, System Design, etc.
  - from-nibly 3y ago
    Who is saying the market is hot for the employees right now? It's dead as a doornail.
- plorkyeran 3y ago
  This is a problem that a lot of fields have had (e.g. hand-crafted furniture). Technological advances killed the market for juniors but demand for seniors remained. In the short term it's completely fine, but then a few decades later there's not enough new seniors to match demand.
  - nradov 3y ago
    What is the correct quantity of "senior" furniture craftsmen? How do we know there is a shortage? Unless there has been enormous wage inflation in the past few years then I am skeptical of any shortage claims.

Buttons840 3y ago

And those who know what they're doing will have reliable work fixing the slop they made, but for less pay. (I say this because, judging by pay, building a new website, no matter how poorly, is more valuable then doing something like maintaining the banking systems.)

dartos 3y ago

This is true. The gap between seniors and juniors just gets bigger.