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oh cool so the contributors of the data are all getting paid?
by mediumsmart 3y ago
oh cool so the contributors of the data are all getting paid?
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- MakeThemMoney 3y agoOr course! Same way we get paid by for the ideas we discuss here
- brookst 3y agoExactly. If you don’t get value from HN, don’t use HN. If you don’t get value from Reddit, don’t use Reddit.
- CSMastermind 3y agoPart of what makes hackernews worth participating in is that the owners are not profit-maximizing and trying to extract the maximum possible value from the site. It's a trade: y-combinator, by cultivating a group of talented technical contributors, gets to advertise hiring posts for free and, in some ways, autistically contributes to the community. In exchange, we all get a place for thoughtful discussion with reasonably fair moderation. It's a fair trade for those involved and closer to a non-profit model than Reddit which is clearly trying to extract as much value as possible from the content creators on their platform in exchange for giving them community/platform.
- paulddraper 3y ago> the owners are not profit-maximizing Should we tell him?
- relativ575 3y ago> Part of what makes hackernews worth participating in is that the owners are not profit-maximizing and trying to extract the maximum possible value from the site. How do you know? Just because there is no ads doesn't mean they don't have any benefits from keeping HN thriving. Also for me I like HN because of the content, not because I care about YC's motive. You are obviously different.
- wombat-man 3y agoPaid in glorious internet points.
- Alupis 3y ago> oh cool so the contributors of the data are all getting paid? If people on reddit wanted to get paid for their opinions, they wouldn't be posting them for free on a publicly accessible forum that does not even require an account to view... This same sentiment came up when StackExchange started to use/sell StackOverflow posts for AI training too - yet everyone arguing that position failed to recognize StackExchange has been making money off their free contributions since day one. Like, how else would StackExchange even exist? They can sell job postings now because of all the free contributions and community built up over the past decade - same with Reddit...
- tayo42 3y agoI think people would write blogs and stuff, but reddit communities are so hostile to anything off the platform.
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- Scoundreller 3y agoAt least for the time-being, you can still do full downloads/extracts of stack for your needs, e.g.: https://www.brentozar.com/archive/2015/10/how-to-download-the-stack-overflow-database-via-bittorrent/ https://www.brentozar.com/archive/2015/10/how-to-download-th...
- 23B1 3y ago> If people on reddit wanted to get paid for their opinions, they wouldn't be posting them for free on a publicly accessible forum that does not even require an account to view... People post on the internet 'for free' with the expectation that they're discussing ideas which have their own value, not providing training data. Yeah yeah ToS blah blah blah, but the goodwill that sites have built – even ones like HN – is on the premise that we're participating in the marketplace of ideas, not enriching shareholders. This will ultimately be bad for the open internet.
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- swyx 3y agoyou guys are getting paid?
- dmix 3y agoAll platforms are moving to monetize content contributors. It’s worked amazing for YouTube, TikTok, and Twitch. X is trying it slowly. Reddit could potentially do this but I don’t think they have a solid business model to support it yet. They are scrambling for money streams, not content. Although high end supported content drives ad views so who knows.
- drexlspivey 3y agoPaying people to shitpost, what could go wrong with that.
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