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And as we've seen before so many times, one side will say this is evidence that the West had fallen while the other side will claim there is absolutely no issue
by ThrowawayTestr 3y ago
And as we've seen before so many times, one side will say this is evidence that the West had fallen while the other side will claim there is absolutely no issue whatsoever.
- hndamien 3y agoThe true test of whether the west has fallen is in its treatment of Julian Assange. The juxtaposition of outpouring for Navalny while mute on Assange is telling. We will see in the coming weeks if “The West”tm will put the final nail in its own morality coffin.
- ThisIsMyAltAcct 3y agoThose two aren’t really comparable
- hellojesus 3y agoWhat about a comparison to the west's response of Gonzalo Lira's death in Ukrainian custody then?
- ThisIsMyAltAcct 3y agoA guy who no one knew anything about until he got arrested, who said “Women are like dogs, you have to treat them like you would treat a dog. Every woman responds well to a violent physical encounter.”, who doxxed and stalked journalists in Ukraine and pushed obvious Russian propaganda while living in the country they were invading? Yes, I can understand why there's little outpouring of sympathy for him, at least from the mainstream media and government. There's plenty of sympathy for him from other powerful Western figures though!
- hndamien 3y agoI actually never considered extrajudicial murder as a western value. Perhaps naively.
- ThisIsMyAltAcct 3y agoIt isn't, of course. It was wrong for Lira's pneumonia to be ignored for so long, and the Ukrainian anti-Russian propaganda law is questionable, but if you're wondering why the coverage of Lira is so different from that of Navalny, a man who the Russian govt has tried to assassinate with a nerve agent, this is why.
- riehwvfbk 3y agoThere is a universal rebuttal on Western discussion forums against anything in favor of Russia: just yell "whataboutism!" Guess what, Russian discussion forums have memes about Western apologetics too. They main ones are "That's different" (what you are doing in this thread) and "highly likely" (when completely made up BS is prefixed with "a credible source said it is highly likely that...")
- ThisIsMyAltAcct 3y agoI don't give a shit about what memes Russian apologists have about Western posters. Flat-earthers have memes about globeheads, that doesn't mean they're right about anything. If Russian posters are tired of hearing those things, they can stop making the same stupid comparisons in every thread and stop blanket-denying anything Russia does wrong.
- riehwvfbk 3y ago> Those two aren’t really comparable Because why? Because "that's different"? Anyway, I was just pointing out that you aren't the only one capable of blanket dismissing the other side.
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- urbandw311er 3y agoMy experience with this tactic is that when nations sneak in and murder people on British soil it tends to rather put us off them. Source: Putin vs Skripal, Salisbury, 2019
- barryrandall 3y agoDidn't that already happen? Like 1500 years ago?
- asadotzler 3y agoThis side claims neither, only that these chatbots are not sources of truth and if you believe they are, you're a fool who has no place in tech.
- arp242 3y agoLots of non-tech people use these tools too. The complaint is more that AI companies are misrepresenting what their AI is and can do, leading to unrealistic expectations.