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AI Companies Are Getting the Culture War They Deserve
- lebean 3y agoMan, HBO's Silicon Valley needs a reboot.
- threesevenths 3y agoEach episodes’ script should be generated by a different LLM.
- Chazprime 3y agoOr Better Off Ted. The episode about racially insensitive security cameras is comedy gold.
- ThrowawayTestr 3y agoAnd as we've seen before so many times, one side will say this is evidence that the West had fallen while the other side will claim there is absolutely no issue whatsoever.
- hndamien 3y agoThe true test of whether the west has fallen is in its treatment of Julian Assange. The juxtaposition of outpouring for Navalny while mute on Assange is telling. We will see in the coming weeks if “The West”tm will put the final nail in its own morality coffin.
- ThisIsMyAltAcct 3y agoThose two aren’t really comparable
- hellojesus 3y agoWhat about a comparison to the west's response of Gonzalo Lira's death in Ukrainian custody then?
- ThisIsMyAltAcct 3y agoA guy who no one knew anything about until he got arrested, who said “Women are like dogs, you have to treat them like you would treat a dog. Every woman responds well to a violent physical encounter.”, who doxxed and stalked journalists in Ukraine and pushed obvious Russian propaganda while living in the country they were invading? Yes, I can understand why there's little outpouring of sympathy for him, at least from the mainstream media and government. There's plenty of sympathy for him from other powerful Western figures though!
- hndamien 3y agoI actually never considered extrajudicial murder as a western value. Perhaps naively.
- ThisIsMyAltAcct 3y agoIt isn't, of course. It was wrong for Lira's pneumonia to be ignored for so long, and the Ukrainian anti-Russian propaganda law is questionable, but if you're wondering why the coverage of Lira is so different from that of Navalny, a man who the Russian govt has tried to assassinate with a nerve agent, this is why.
- riehwvfbk 3y agoThere is a universal rebuttal on Western discussion forums against anything in favor of Russia: just yell "whataboutism!" Guess what, Russian discussion forums have memes about Western apologetics too. They main ones are "That's different" (what you are doing in this thread) and "highly likely" (when completely made up BS is prefixed with "a credible source said it is highly likely that...")
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- urbandw311er 3y agoMy experience with this tactic is that when nations sneak in and murder people on British soil it tends to rather put us off them. Source: Putin vs Skripal, Salisbury, 2019
- barryrandall 3y agoDidn't that already happen? Like 1500 years ago?
- asadotzler 3y agoThis side claims neither, only that these chatbots are not sources of truth and if you believe they are, you're a fool who has no place in tech.
- arp242 3y agoLots of non-tech people use these tools too. The complaint is more that AI companies are misrepresenting what their AI is and can do, leading to unrealistic expectations.
- celdon25 3y ago> It’s also, according to one very vocal group of users, complicit in a conspiracy against white people: Really? That's the best we can do here? Showing a couple of tweets from a so-called "very vocal" group (gaslighting much?) doesn't do justice to the blatant racism that is present in the image generator. You can see a video of what's actually happening here. It will refuse to generate white people, responding instead with lectures, while the same prompts asking for black people instead will be just fine. When asking for medieval knights, etc, it will show black kings with white people bowing to it. It has shown George Washington as a black person, etc. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcUSavC7-Kw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcUSavC7-Kw
- arp242 3y agoNo one denied the facts of the matter, certainly not this article. But " complicit in a conspiracy against white people" is still unhinged crazy bollocks. You're seriously misrepresenting the article.
- EchoChamberMan 3y ago> so-called "very vocal" group (gaslighting much?) Says the highest voted comment on the post...
- winternett 3y agoGermans can't be black? I never knew that... Honestly at this point, they should just ban the word woke unless we're talking about sleeping. It's such a horribly aged and poorly chosen misnomer. There is no win with AI image generation, anyone can ask it to do anything nefarious at any time... Artists can technically draw any picture they want, so I really don't know why they're always trying to do PR control over tools. Instead, they need to apply the logic to improve account control in order to censor and properly tag explicit and offensive material. I still see snuff videos on TikTok and Reddit, I'm worried about kids seeing some of the horrible stuff I've seen online, at this point Ai should be flawless in IDing and tagging negative content. Ai should flawlessly ID the people sharing nefarious content without proper context and even handle tech support and appeals for wrongful cases quickly... That's the real type of use case for AI, not limiting and constantly extinguishing what can be generated by creative minds as much as they do.
- asadotzler 3y agoThese are not truth machines. What do you want from them? Copilot is making up Putin quotes from Putin press conferences that never happened. There can be no expectation of fact from these impenetrable black boxes. They're stochastic parrots and little more. Expecting them to be truth tellers is the silliest thing I've ever heard from otherwise reasonably smart SV people. WTF, folks?!
- nkurz 3y agoI think you are seeing just how desperately many people want a "truth machine". Sure, LLM's are terrible for the purpose, but if you have nothing else, you cling to it with all your force. Instead of mocking them, pity them like the baby monkey clinging to its wire frame mother: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Harlow https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Harlow
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- not_really 3y ago> What do you want from them? For starters, most local models I've seen don't stuff prompts with DEI requirements, and actually do a reasonable job of following instructions
- asadotzler 3y agoand most local modes don't have trillion dollar companies worried about getting sued. are you all dense or trolling here?
- not_really 3y agoI am doing neither, and I'm not buying what you're selling. Meta's local models contain alignment and censoring, yet it is nowhere near the scale of Gemini's bias. I hopefully don't need to remind you that a large number of local models are based on llama. Mistral has raised over $300 million. I'd say that warrants being worried about getting sued, yet you don't see people memeing about their model's alignment.