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That these states are antagonistic to women's health. See: Alabama's ruling that frozen embryos for IVF are actually children with all the rights thereof, immed

That these states are antagonistic to women's health. See: Alabama's ruling that frozen embryos for IVF are actually children with all the rights thereof, immediately ceasing IVF procedures. See also: https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/05/us/texas-woman-high-risk-pregnancy-abortion-lawsuit/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/05/us/texas-woman-high-risk-preg... This woman in Texas having to sue to avoid a very dangerous birth of a child who will she will end up having to watch die within a few days. > It states Cox’s OB-GYN, Dr. Damla Karsan, has a “good faith belief” that Cox falls under the legal exception to the abortion ban, but can’t provide the abortion without a court order because she “cannot risk loss of her medical license, life in prison, and massive civil fines” if her belief is not accepted by the courts. So yes, Texas has an exception for births that would threaten the mother's life, but in practice doctors are justifiably petrified of betting their freedom on their assessment of that risk lining up with a bunch of medically ignorant theocrats' assessments.

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ethbr1 3y ago
The opinion in the Alabama Supreme Court ruling is a fascinating read, as the justices attempting to figure out what the heck the legislature's intent was in a poorly-written and sparse law. https://publicportal-api.alappeals.gov/courts/68f021c4-6a44-4735-9a76-5360b2e8af13/cms/case/343D203A-B13D-463A-8176-C46E3AE4F695/docketentrydocuments/E3D95592-3CBE-4384-AFA6-063D4595AA1D https://publicportal-api.alappeals.gov/courts/68f021c4-6a44-...
sandworm101 3y ago
>> Texas has an exception for births that would threaten the mother's life I saw an interview with a political appointee in charge of exemptions, I believe in texas. He was a hardcore right-wing Christian republican strongly against abortion. He lasted a week. After seeing all the various horror stories, the stuff that obgyns learn of at school, he radically changed his mind and was asking to let doctors again make the decisions: "Please, I don't want to see any more of those ultrasounds."
- sp332 3y ago
  A source would be great if you can remember that one.
imtringued 3y ago
Frozen embryos are children with all rights? What's next? Women who have periods are serial killers and must be kept pregnant at all times? Most of those frozen embryos are less than a dozen stem cells. You lose far more skin cells every second. There is no way to describe this other than religious crankery.

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ethbr1 3y ago

The opinion in the Alabama Supreme Court ruling is a fascinating read, as the justices attempting to figure out what the heck the legislature's intent was in a poorly-written and sparse law. https://publicportal-api.alappeals.gov/courts/68f021c4-6a44-4735-9a76-5360b2e8af13/cms/case/343D203A-B13D-463A-8176-C46E3AE4F695/docketentrydocuments/E3D95592-3CBE-4384-AFA6-063D4595AA1D https://publicportal-api.alappeals.gov/courts/68f021c4-6a44-...

sandworm101 3y ago

>> Texas has an exception for births that would threaten the mother's life I saw an interview with a political appointee in charge of exemptions, I believe in texas. He was a hardcore right-wing Christian republican strongly against abortion. He lasted a week. After seeing all the various horror stories, the stuff that obgyns learn of at school, he radically changed his mind and was asking to let doctors again make the decisions: "Please, I don't want to see any more of those ultrasounds."

sp332 3y ago
A source would be great if you can remember that one.

imtringued 3y ago

Frozen embryos are children with all rights? What's next? Women who have periods are serial killers and must be kept pregnant at all times? Most of those frozen embryos are less than a dozen stem cells. You lose far more skin cells every second. There is no way to describe this other than religious crankery.