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German couple in 1820 https://www.reddit.com/r/ChatGPT/comments/1avmpfo/ah_the_classic_super_buff_native_american_and/ https://www.reddit.com/r/ChatGPT/comments

by sva_ 3y ago

German couple in 1820 https://www.reddit.com/r/ChatGPT/comments/1avmpfo/ah_the_classic_super_buff_native_american_and/ https://www.reddit.com/r/ChatGPT/comments/1avmpfo/ah_the_cla... 1943 German soldier https://www.reddit.com/r/ChatGPT/comments/1awtzf0/average_german_soldier_1943/ https://www.reddit.com/r/ChatGPT/comments/1awtzf0/average_ge... Pretty funny, but what do you expect.

Simulacra 3y ago
Your second link was removed
- sva_ 3y ago
  This was posted: https://drive.usercontent.google.com/download?id=1jisgwOVMer-hfyhJeVaU5bG2EARquegE&export=view https://drive.usercontent.google.com/download?id=1jisgwOVMer...
  - HenryBemis 3y ago
    So, the 3rd Reich was not the fault of "white men" that were supporting the "superior white race" but a bunch of asian women, black men, native american women. The only white man was injured. This is between tragic and pathetic. This is what happens when one forces DEI.
inference-lord 3y ago
The African Nazi was amusing.
- Perceval 3y ago
  Maybe it was drawing from the couple thousand North African troops that fought for the Wehrmacht: https://allthatsinteresting.com/free-arabian-legion https://allthatsinteresting.com/free-arabian-legion
  - deleted 3y ago
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  - inference-lord 3y ago
    I knew that someone would find something like this, they're not wearing the traditional Nazi uniform like in the photo.
henry_viii 3y ago
Scottish people in 1820 https://twitter.com/BasedTorba/status/1759949016320643566 https://twitter.com/BasedTorba/status/1759949016320643566 British / American / German / Swedish women https://twitter.com/iamyesyouareno/status/1759893132185858553 https://twitter.com/iamyesyouareno/status/175989313218585855...
- Tarragon 3y ago
  "It’s often assumed that African people arrived in Scotland in the 18th century, or even later. But in fact Africans were resident in Scotland much earlier, and in the early 16th century they were high-status members of the royal retinue." https://www.nts.org.uk/stories/africans-at-the-court-of-james-iv https://www.nts.org.uk/stories/africans-at-the-court-of-jame...
  - dekhn 3y ago
    an article about a small number of royally-associated africans in soctland in the 16th century does not justify an image generating AI producing large numbers of black people in pictures of scottish people in the 16th century.
    - Tarragon 3y ago
      The Scotland link in the grandparent post is to a picture of 2 people, 1 white, 1 black. 1 is not large numbers. Look, Gemini is clearly doing some weird stuff. But going all "look what crazy thing it did" for this specific image is bullshit. Maybe it's a misunderstanding of Scotland in specific and the prevalence of black people in history in general, in which case in needs to be gently corrected. Or it's performative histrionics
      - dekhn 3y ago
        The argument I think you're making is "0.0001% of scottish people in the 16th century were black, so it's not realistic to criticize google if it produces historical images of scottish people where >25% of the individuals are black". If you take the totality of examples given (beyond the scottish one), it's clear there's nothing specific about scotland here, the problem is systemic, and centered around class and race specifically. It feels to me- consistent with what many others have expressed- that Google specifically is applying query rewrites or other mechanisms to generate diversity where it historically did not exist, with a specific intent. That's why they shut down image generation a day after launching.

by sva_ 3y ago

Simulacra 3y ago

Your second link was removed

sva_ 3y ago
This was posted: https://drive.usercontent.google.com/download?id=1jisgwOVMer-hfyhJeVaU5bG2EARquegE&export=view https://drive.usercontent.google.com/download?id=1jisgwOVMer...
- HenryBemis 3y ago
  So, the 3rd Reich was not the fault of "white men" that were supporting the "superior white race" but a bunch of asian women, black men, native american women. The only white man was injured. This is between tragic and pathetic. This is what happens when one forces DEI.

inference-lord 3y ago

The African Nazi was amusing.

Perceval 3y ago
Maybe it was drawing from the couple thousand North African troops that fought for the Wehrmacht: https://allthatsinteresting.com/free-arabian-legion https://allthatsinteresting.com/free-arabian-legion
- deleted 3y ago
  [deleted]
- inference-lord 3y ago
  I knew that someone would find something like this, they're not wearing the traditional Nazi uniform like in the photo.

henry_viii 3y ago

Scottish people in 1820 https://twitter.com/BasedTorba/status/1759949016320643566 https://twitter.com/BasedTorba/status/1759949016320643566 British / American / German / Swedish women https://twitter.com/iamyesyouareno/status/1759893132185858553 https://twitter.com/iamyesyouareno/status/175989313218585855...

Tarragon 3y ago
"It’s often assumed that African people arrived in Scotland in the 18th century, or even later. But in fact Africans were resident in Scotland much earlier, and in the early 16th century they were high-status members of the royal retinue." https://www.nts.org.uk/stories/africans-at-the-court-of-james-iv https://www.nts.org.uk/stories/africans-at-the-court-of-jame...
- dekhn 3y ago
  an article about a small number of royally-associated africans in soctland in the 16th century does not justify an image generating AI producing large numbers of black people in pictures of scottish people in the 16th century.
  - Tarragon 3y ago
    The Scotland link in the grandparent post is to a picture of 2 people, 1 white, 1 black. 1 is not large numbers. Look, Gemini is clearly doing some weird stuff. But going all "look what crazy thing it did" for this specific image is bullshit. Maybe it's a misunderstanding of Scotland in specific and the prevalence of black people in history in general, in which case in needs to be gently corrected. Or it's performative histrionics
    - dekhn 3y ago
      The argument I think you're making is "0.0001% of scottish people in the 16th century were black, so it's not realistic to criticize google if it produces historical images of scottish people where >25% of the individuals are black". If you take the totality of examples given (beyond the scottish one), it's clear there's nothing specific about scotland here, the problem is systemic, and centered around class and race specifically. It feels to me- consistent with what many others have expressed- that Google specifically is applying query rewrites or other mechanisms to generate diversity where it historically did not exist, with a specific intent. That's why they shut down image generation a day after launching.