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Engineers can easily spend more time and effort dealing with these 'corner cases' than they do building the whole of the rest of the product.
by londons_explore 3y ago
Engineers can easily spend more time and effort dealing with these 'corner cases' than they do building the whole of the rest of the product.
- baq 3y agoThe famous 80/80 rule
- hallway_monitor 3y agoThe first 80% of a software project takes 80% of the time. The last 20% of a software project takes 80% of the time. And if you prove this false, you're a better engineer than me!
- peteradio 3y ago> And if you prove this false, you're a better engineer than me! Probably cheating somehow!
- adolph 3y agoThat’s only 60% over budget. What takes up the last 40%? Agile project management scrum standup virtual meetings?
- hashtag-til 3y ago40% is taken by managers forwarding e-mails among themselves and generating unnecessary meetings. Or, how Gemini would say... 40% is taken by A DIVERSE SET of managers forwarding e-mails among themselves and generating unnecessary meetings.
- twothamendment 3y agoAs a low paid, part-time intern I finished a project with another low paid, part-time intern. We were supposed to have some FT people on with us, but that never happened so we just kept working. We only had one weekly meeting and it was a challenging project. When it was done we had a lunch/meeting to celebrate and discuss how it went with the project people. They commented that this was the first one that was both under budget and late and wondered how that could be. I volunteered that it was because "we are interns and don't get paid much and it was late because we spent a month waiting for the DBA to correct a mistake he made - we could have been done early." There were shocked faces. Lunch was good and there were not many more questions.
- caeril 3y agoNone of these are "corner cases". The model was specifically RLHF'ed by Google's diversity initiatives to do this.
- figassis 3y agoDo you think Google's diversity team expected it would generate black nazis?
- prometheus76 3y agoDo you think no one internally thought to try this, but didn't see a problem with it because of their worldview?
- ethbr1 3y ago> Do you think no one internally thought to try this This is Google on one hand and the Internet on the other. So probably not?
- hersko 3y agoIt's not difficult to notice that your images are excluding a specific race (which, ironically, most of the engineers building the thing are a part of).
- ethbr1 3y agoI'd hazard a guess that the rate at which Google employees type "generate a white nazi" and the rate at which the general Internet does so differs.
- prometheus76 3y agoIt's clear there is a ban on generating white people, and only white people, when asked to do so directly. Which is clearly an intervention from the designers of this system. They clearly did this intentionally and live in such a padded echo chamber that they didn't see a problem with it. They thought they were "helping". This is a debate between people who want AI to be reflective of reality vs. people who want AI to be reflective of their fantasies of how they wish the world was.
- edgyquant 3y agoThis isn’t a corner case it injects words like inclusive or diverse into the prompt right in front of you. “A German family in 1820” because “a diverse series of German families”
- itsoktocry 3y agoAnd it ignores male gendering. People were posting pictures of women when the prompt asked for a "king".
- tekla 3y agoThough technically it would be ok if it was an Korean or Chinese one, because the word in those languages for "King" is not gendered. Have fun with that AI.
- anticensor 3y agoAnd, in Turkish, we have two gendered (Slavic origin for either gender) and one genderless (Mongolian origin) words for "king".
- prometheus76 3y agoThey were clearly willing to spend time adjusting the knobs in order to create the situation we see now.