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I can’t stand how they shove YouTube Shorts down our throats and don’t give us a way to disable that. I am a huge fan of YouTube overall and have been happy to

I can’t stand how they shove YouTube Shorts down our throats and don’t give us a way to disable that. I am a huge fan of YouTube overall and have been happy to pay to have an ad-free experience

k8sToGo 3y ago
If you go to the website, you can hide Shorts for 30 days. There is an X on the top right for the Shorts section. I do that and don’t feel like it’s being forced into my face anymore.
- theshackleford 3y ago
  If I can only hide them and not remove them on a permanent basis, that is the very definition of being forced into my face. "Oh wow, I can not eat the poop whilst I catch my breath. This will be an enjoyable break before I am forced to start eating the poop again"
  - k8sToGo 3y ago
    I agree. But it’s better than nothing. I wish I could also just disable it everywhere.
- TeMPOraL 3y ago
  > hide Shorts for 30 days Is there a name for this fucked up dark pattern of giving users a "choice" only between accepting and accepting couple days or weeks later?
- amadeuspagel 3y ago
  Not from search results.
- electriclove 3y ago
  Thanks for this tip. I want to be able to do this on the YouTube apps on my kids’ devices
  - k8sToGo 3y ago
    Unfortunately it only removes the recommendation of shorts but not the short tab on the bottom.
benatkin 3y ago
I don't mind the short videos. What I do mind is that they co-opted the word "shorts" which means something else in the context of videos. https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/movies/story/2024-02-15/all-15-shorts-nominated-2024-oscars-review-what-should-win https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/movies/story/2024...
- shiroiushi 3y ago
  Perhaps not: I think your link is talking about "short movies" or "short films". YouTube's Shorts are "short videos". Movies (films) and videos are not the same thing: movies/films are a type of video, but there are many other types of video that are not movies, most notably TV shows, and also "music videos", but really anything that involves a moving picture. A "movie" (or to some, "film") these days is commonly meant to refer to a specific form of art, meaning a visualized stand-alone story that usually takes 1-4 hours to watch, and frequently gets played in a cinema. Similarly, a "book" is a collection of bound paper pages, but a "novel" is a specific type of book that contains a story, and is usually a certain length (if it's too short, it's called a "short story"). So I think it's ok for YouTube to call their 60-second videos "shorts", as long as they don't call them "short films" or "short movies".
  - benatkin 3y ago
    The term "shorts" is also part of that and is what YouTube was trying to co-opt. In the link you can clearly see the word "shorts" being used to refer to these. Here's one from 2010: https://thescorecardreview.com/tsr/review/film-reviews/2010/02/18/oscar-shorts-2010-animated-program-film-reviews/8580 https://thescorecardreview.com/tsr/review/film-reviews/2010/...
    - Dylan16807 3y ago
      That's just context allowing for abbreviation. "Shorts" has always meant different things in different contexts.
fragmede 3y ago
how much extra would you be willing to pay for a shorts-free experience? I'd probably be willing to throw them a dollar or two more for that.
- resolutebat 3y ago
  You can get it for free by turning off your watch history.
lastofus 3y ago
There are extensions to hide the Shorts. I’ve been using one for a month now and it’s been great.
- evere 3y ago
  There's no way to disable them in their mobile apps unfortunately without jumping through a couple hoops with something like a PiHole or using an alternative app on Android.
  - wkat4242 3y ago
    The alternative apps are great though. No ads, no tracking, included sponsorblock etc. I use libretube. Grayjay is also nice but a bit too commercial for me. I don't use YouTube very often as I don't like the video format but sometimes I can't avoid it. And this makes it a lot more palatable.
  - JoshTriplett 3y ago
    Don't use the mobile app. Use https://m.youtube.com/feed/subscriptions https://m.youtube.com/feed/subscriptions in a browser, with uBlock Origin installed.
  - Timshel 3y ago
    If you are on android just use Newpipe.
- amadeuspagel 3y ago
  There's even one featured on the chrome web store: https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/hide-youtube-shorts/aljlkinhomaaahfdojalfmimeidofpih https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/hide-youtube-shorts...
spike021 3y ago
IMO what Instagram has done is worse. Reels every other post in the feed, reels in stories, reels specific tab. On top of all that, yesterday I wanted to post a 5 second video post, just a regular video post, of my dog doing something, and no matter what I did it insisted on posting it as a reel, even though at one point I cancelled the new post, went back to the "new post" view, made sure "post" not "reel" was selected, and then it still made the video a reel.
- pkamb 3y ago
  Reels in the feed is what makes me hate modern IG. There’s already a Reels tab I never tap! I’m telling you something, please listen.
- djsavvy 3y ago
  To post a video as a non-reel the standard workaround is also putting a picture in the same post. You’ll see some creators with an image that just says “anti-reels slide”.
- nox101 3y ago
  this is what made me finally quit Instagram. I was only following friends and family. if it had been 3 friends posts for every 1 ad and zero other stuff pushed at me I'd have stayed but the signal to noise ratio got too high and I finally got fed up and deleted my account last month. I often want to do the same to YouTube as it's recommendations are atrocious and it provides no good ways to turn off the noise. 4 easy things I'd like. The obvious, let me disable shorts. Next up, separate music from non-music. 30% to 50% of their recommendations are for music when I'm not looking for music. By separating them they can give me 100% music when I want music and 100% non-music when I don't. Let me chosoe for it to never recommend videoes I've already watched. 5-10% of their recommendations are wasted on vidoes I've already seen. That should include videos I've manually marked as already watched Don't recommend mixes. (maybe ok in music mode of they'd separate music from non-music)
- offices 3y ago
  It's very subjective, but Reels are actually the only way my close friends interact with Instagram now. As Facebook did, it's gone from a platform for sharing ourselves to a platform for sharing third-party 'content'[1] [1] stolen pet tiktoks
huytersd 3y ago
Shorts pollute everything because they’re so easy to make it’s basically spam.
Timshel 3y ago
Just make a filter to remove the shorts insert.
barryrandall 3y ago
The killer app for Shorts is the ability to view Tik Tok videos without having to directly engage with Tik Tok.

I can’t stand how they shove YouTube Shorts down our throats and don’t give us a way to disable that. I am a huge fan of YouTube overall and have been happy to pay to have an ad-free experience

k8sToGo 3y ago

If you go to the website, you can hide Shorts for 30 days. There is an X on the top right for the Shorts section. I do that and don’t feel like it’s being forced into my face anymore.

theshackleford 3y ago
If I can only hide them and not remove them on a permanent basis, that is the very definition of being forced into my face. "Oh wow, I can not eat the poop whilst I catch my breath. This will be an enjoyable break before I am forced to start eating the poop again"
- k8sToGo 3y ago
  I agree. But it’s better than nothing. I wish I could also just disable it everywhere.
TeMPOraL 3y ago
> hide Shorts for 30 days Is there a name for this fucked up dark pattern of giving users a "choice" only between accepting and accepting couple days or weeks later?
amadeuspagel 3y ago
Not from search results.
electriclove 3y ago
Thanks for this tip. I want to be able to do this on the YouTube apps on my kids’ devices
- k8sToGo 3y ago
  Unfortunately it only removes the recommendation of shorts but not the short tab on the bottom.

benatkin 3y ago

I don't mind the short videos. What I do mind is that they co-opted the word "shorts" which means something else in the context of videos. https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/movies/story/2024-02-15/all-15-shorts-nominated-2024-oscars-review-what-should-win https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/movies/story/2024...

shiroiushi 3y ago
Perhaps not: I think your link is talking about "short movies" or "short films". YouTube's Shorts are "short videos". Movies (films) and videos are not the same thing: movies/films are a type of video, but there are many other types of video that are not movies, most notably TV shows, and also "music videos", but really anything that involves a moving picture. A "movie" (or to some, "film") these days is commonly meant to refer to a specific form of art, meaning a visualized stand-alone story that usually takes 1-4 hours to watch, and frequently gets played in a cinema. Similarly, a "book" is a collection of bound paper pages, but a "novel" is a specific type of book that contains a story, and is usually a certain length (if it's too short, it's called a "short story"). So I think it's ok for YouTube to call their 60-second videos "shorts", as long as they don't call them "short films" or "short movies".
- benatkin 3y ago
  The term "shorts" is also part of that and is what YouTube was trying to co-opt. In the link you can clearly see the word "shorts" being used to refer to these. Here's one from 2010: https://thescorecardreview.com/tsr/review/film-reviews/2010/02/18/oscar-shorts-2010-animated-program-film-reviews/8580 https://thescorecardreview.com/tsr/review/film-reviews/2010/...
  - Dylan16807 3y ago
    That's just context allowing for abbreviation. "Shorts" has always meant different things in different contexts.

fragmede 3y ago

how much extra would you be willing to pay for a shorts-free experience? I'd probably be willing to throw them a dollar or two more for that.

resolutebat 3y ago
You can get it for free by turning off your watch history.

lastofus 3y ago

There are extensions to hide the Shorts. I’ve been using one for a month now and it’s been great.

evere 3y ago
There's no way to disable them in their mobile apps unfortunately without jumping through a couple hoops with something like a PiHole or using an alternative app on Android.
- wkat4242 3y ago
  The alternative apps are great though. No ads, no tracking, included sponsorblock etc. I use libretube. Grayjay is also nice but a bit too commercial for me. I don't use YouTube very often as I don't like the video format but sometimes I can't avoid it. And this makes it a lot more palatable.
- JoshTriplett 3y ago
  Don't use the mobile app. Use https://m.youtube.com/feed/subscriptions https://m.youtube.com/feed/subscriptions in a browser, with uBlock Origin installed.
- Timshel 3y ago
  If you are on android just use Newpipe.
amadeuspagel 3y ago
There's even one featured on the chrome web store: https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/hide-youtube-shorts/aljlkinhomaaahfdojalfmimeidofpih https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/hide-youtube-shorts...

spike021 3y ago

IMO what Instagram has done is worse. Reels every other post in the feed, reels in stories, reels specific tab. On top of all that, yesterday I wanted to post a 5 second video post, just a regular video post, of my dog doing something, and no matter what I did it insisted on posting it as a reel, even though at one point I cancelled the new post, went back to the "new post" view, made sure "post" not "reel" was selected, and then it still made the video a reel.

pkamb 3y ago
Reels in the feed is what makes me hate modern IG. There’s already a Reels tab I never tap! I’m telling you something, please listen.
djsavvy 3y ago
To post a video as a non-reel the standard workaround is also putting a picture in the same post. You’ll see some creators with an image that just says “anti-reels slide”.
nox101 3y ago
this is what made me finally quit Instagram. I was only following friends and family. if it had been 3 friends posts for every 1 ad and zero other stuff pushed at me I'd have stayed but the signal to noise ratio got too high and I finally got fed up and deleted my account last month. I often want to do the same to YouTube as it's recommendations are atrocious and it provides no good ways to turn off the noise. 4 easy things I'd like. The obvious, let me disable shorts. Next up, separate music from non-music. 30% to 50% of their recommendations are for music when I'm not looking for music. By separating them they can give me 100% music when I want music and 100% non-music when I don't. Let me chosoe for it to never recommend videoes I've already watched. 5-10% of their recommendations are wasted on vidoes I've already seen. That should include videos I've manually marked as already watched Don't recommend mixes. (maybe ok in music mode of they'd separate music from non-music)
offices 3y ago
It's very subjective, but Reels are actually the only way my close friends interact with Instagram now. As Facebook did, it's gone from a platform for sharing ourselves to a platform for sharing third-party 'content'[1] [1] stolen pet tiktoks

huytersd 3y ago

Shorts pollute everything because they’re so easy to make it’s basically spam.

Timshel 3y ago

Just make a filter to remove the shorts insert.

barryrandall 3y ago

The killer app for Shorts is the ability to view Tik Tok videos without having to directly engage with Tik Tok.