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For now that is. I sort of hope someone more motivated than myself makes a timer for how long before the crappification* of YouTube begins now that it appears

For now that is. I sort of hope someone more motivated than myself makes a timer for how long before the crappification* of YouTube begins now that it appears MBAs will be taking over. The new CEO probably has some gumption, but it seems inevitable. * of course this is subjective, but generally I can find lots of great YouTube content. I can buy premium to avoid the ads and become the client, not the product. 1: https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-64675997.amp https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-64675997.amp

BlueTemplar 3y ago
Circa 2009, with the introduction of ContentID.
riffraff 3y ago
Fwiw I think the commonly used term is "enshittification". https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enshittification https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enshittification
lynx23 3y ago
The crappification of YouTube has already begon with Shorts and the inability to disable this completely useless content.
- sph 3y ago
  If you click the X on the Shorts section it says "We will hide Shorts for 30 days" How about you hide them forever? Some MBA must have decided that it would not be good for their KPI if people could just ignore the clickbait.
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  - MaxikCZ 3y ago
    Idk if I am in different AB group but I no longer have the X there........
- ruune 3y ago
  On mobile that's the biggest reason I use ReVanced. Sure, blocking ads is nice and all, but I'm paying for premium anyway. I just don't want to see shorts 1: https://github.com/ReVanced https://github.com/ReVanced
- Player6225 3y ago
  fwiw I turned off history and all the recommendations settings, and now they hide the shorts and frontpage recs
- elcritch 3y ago
  Eh, I like some of the shorts. I just scroll by them when I'm not. I'm thinking about much deeper enshitification like nickel-and-diming content creators until they all leave. Getting rid of premium or adding ads to it, etc. Adding even more ads for regular users.
fnordian_slip 3y ago
The fact that search is broken (you often only get a few relevant videos and then some recommendations that have nothing to do with your search) and YouTube shorts are shoved in your face constantly are not enough for you to attest enshittification at this point in time? How bad do you expect it to become in the near future?

BlueTemplar 3y ago

Circa 2009, with the introduction of ContentID.

riffraff 3y ago

Fwiw I think the commonly used term is "enshittification". https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enshittification https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enshittification

lynx23 3y ago

The crappification of YouTube has already begon with Shorts and the inability to disable this completely useless content.

sph 3y ago
If you click the X on the Shorts section it says "We will hide Shorts for 30 days" How about you hide them forever? Some MBA must have decided that it would not be good for their KPI if people could just ignore the clickbait.
- deleted 3y ago
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- MaxikCZ 3y ago
  Idk if I am in different AB group but I no longer have the X there........
ruune 3y ago
On mobile that's the biggest reason I use ReVanced. Sure, blocking ads is nice and all, but I'm paying for premium anyway. I just don't want to see shorts 1: https://github.com/ReVanced https://github.com/ReVanced
Player6225 3y ago
fwiw I turned off history and all the recommendations settings, and now they hide the shorts and frontpage recs
elcritch 3y ago
Eh, I like some of the shorts. I just scroll by them when I'm not. I'm thinking about much deeper enshitification like nickel-and-diming content creators until they all leave. Getting rid of premium or adding ads to it, etc. Adding even more ads for regular users.

fnordian_slip 3y ago

The fact that search is broken (you often only get a few relevant videos and then some recommendations that have nothing to do with your search) and YouTube shorts are shoved in your face constantly are not enough for you to attest enshittification at this point in time? How bad do you expect it to become in the near future?