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The ridiculous degree of PC alignment of corporate models is the thing that's going to let open source win. Few people use bing/dall-e, but if OpenAI had made

The ridiculous degree of PC alignment of corporate models is the thing that's going to let open source win. Few people use bing/dall-e, but if OpenAI had made dall-e more available and hadn't put ridiculous guardrails on it, stable diffusion would be a footnote at this point. Instead, dall-e is a joke and people who make art use stable diffusion, with casuals who just want some pretty looking pictures using midjourney.

photoGrant 3y ago
No, ignoring laws and stealing data to increase your Castle's MOAT is the win. Compute isn't an open source solvable problem. I can't DirtyPCB's an A100 Making the argument open source is the answer is an agenda of making your competition spin wheels.
- CuriouslyC 3y ago
  You're on a thread about how people are lambasting big money AI for being garbage, and producing inferior results to OSS tools you can run on consumer GPUS, tell me again how unbeatable google/other big tech players are.
  - photoGrant 3y ago
    I've been part of the advertising and marketing world for a lot of these companies for a decade plus, I've helped them sell bullshit. I've also been at the start of the AI journey, I've downloaded and checked local models of all promises and variances. To say they're better than the compute that OpenAI or Google are throwing at the problem is just plain wrong. I left the ad industry the moment I realised my skills and talents are better used informing people than lying to them. This thread is not at all comparing the ethical issues of AI with local anything. You're conflating your solution with another problem.
    - CuriouslyC 3y ago
      Is a $5 can opener better than a $2000 telescope at opening cans? Yes. Is stable diffusion better at producing finished art, by virtue of not being closed off and DEI'd to oblivion so that it can actually be incorporated into workflows? Emphatically yes. It doesn't matter how fancy your engineering is and how much money you have if you're too stupid to build the right product. As for this being written nonsense, that's the sort of thing someone who couldn't find an easy way to win an argument and was bitter about the fact would say.
      - photoGrant 3y ago
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        u32480932048 3y ago
        I understood it perfectly.
josephg 3y ago
Don’t count out Adobe Firefly. I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s used more than all the other image gen models combined.
- CuriouslyC 3y ago
  That might be true, but if you're using firefly as a juiced up content-aware fill in photoshop I'm not sure it's apples to apples.

photoGrant 3y ago

No, ignoring laws and stealing data to increase your Castle's MOAT is the win. Compute isn't an open source solvable problem. I can't DirtyPCB's an A100 Making the argument open source is the answer is an agenda of making your competition spin wheels.

CuriouslyC 3y ago
You're on a thread about how people are lambasting big money AI for being garbage, and producing inferior results to OSS tools you can run on consumer GPUS, tell me again how unbeatable google/other big tech players are.
- photoGrant 3y ago
  I've been part of the advertising and marketing world for a lot of these companies for a decade plus, I've helped them sell bullshit. I've also been at the start of the AI journey, I've downloaded and checked local models of all promises and variances. To say they're better than the compute that OpenAI or Google are throwing at the problem is just plain wrong. I left the ad industry the moment I realised my skills and talents are better used informing people than lying to them. This thread is not at all comparing the ethical issues of AI with local anything. You're conflating your solution with another problem.
  - CuriouslyC 3y ago
    Is a $5 can opener better than a $2000 telescope at opening cans? Yes. Is stable diffusion better at producing finished art, by virtue of not being closed off and DEI'd to oblivion so that it can actually be incorporated into workflows? Emphatically yes. It doesn't matter how fancy your engineering is and how much money you have if you're too stupid to build the right product. As for this being written nonsense, that's the sort of thing someone who couldn't find an easy way to win an argument and was bitter about the fact would say.
    - photoGrant 3y ago
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      - u32480932048 3y ago
        I understood it perfectly.

josephg 3y ago

Don’t count out Adobe Firefly. I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s used more than all the other image gen models combined.

CuriouslyC 3y ago
That might be true, but if you're using firefly as a juiced up content-aware fill in photoshop I'm not sure it's apples to apples.