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fighting to sustain a monopoly it indicates to me a lack of ideas about the future reacting rather than preparing

api 3y ago
It's particularly silly given their cash horde that they are not investing. Speaks to a highly conservative corporate culture almost to the level of stockpiling canned food and shotguns.
MiscIdeaMaker99 3y ago
A monopoly of what, exactly?
- 5350-uiop-1130 3y ago
  app store monopoly did you read the article?
  - op00to 3y ago
    Wasn’t Apple forced to open up their App Store monopoly?
    - Fischgericht 3y ago
      Yes, and they are not complying but believe they can get away with abusing tiny loopholes. The are sabotaging the whole idea. For example them demanding that app developers have to pay APPLE if they are distributing their apps through a different App store is the exact opposite of the intention of the EU regulations, and plain evil.
rickdeckard 3y ago
I think their idea of the future is very much centered around selling the attention and purchasing power of their customers. That's not meant to be rude "Anti-Apple", that's what their business strategy is obviously based on, including implementing lots of features to prevent their users from voluntarily providing attention or sharing valuable information for free to anyone without Apple's involvement. If that's your strategy, someone forcing you to allow your customers to roam free is quite a big threat. Something you might be willing to spend one of your trillion dollars to fight against. So I believe we haven't seen the peak of this yet...
- christkv 3y ago
  I think that’s coming fast as slumping sales will put the focus on making more money from services and probably soon selling data
sneak 3y ago
With a soon to be nonexistent middle class in the USA (as well as big growth in comparatively poor countries) getting Apple-style huge profits in the next 2-3 decades is going to be much more about getting $20-50/mo/user in perpetuity and less about selling premium price $1k-3k devices. The AVP (at like version 3 or 4) is the endgame for “Apple should make a TV”. It’s the ultimate passive content consumption device. Apple is now existentially committed to recurring revenue like a crackhead loves crack. It was obvious to me when I bought a $1600 iPhone and within 5 minutes of setting it up it began nagging me for $5 for iCloud storage. When even Google has figured out how to not nickel and dime your most profitable customer segment and Apple hasn’t, you know something’s wrong. Expect one of the most clever companies in the world to put a majority of their mental energy into rentseeking of all kinds, from cloud storage to content rentals (music and tv and movie subscriptions) to AppleCare and every other possible thing (Fitness, Arcade, the perpetual iPhone upgrade thing, etc). It’s going to be subscriptions forever. I expect them to be wildly successful from a revenue standpoint with this plan. Their products (that ugly-ass Ultra watch and tiny bass-free Homepod mini, for example) and nag-filled no-privacy UX have taken a hit and will continue to do so. They’re just consumption devices for Apple Music and iMessage (your attachment history for which drives iCloud storage upgrades). I’m surprised they haven’t figured out a way to charge something for FaceTime yet. This is why they are fighting the DMA - their position as rentseeker is directly responsible for a double digit percentage of the profits of the most valuable company in the world for the next two dozen years. We are talking about literally trillions of dollars hanging in the balance here. How much fight do you think they will bring to bear on this for that much revenue? There is zero product UX that is insanely great coming out of Apple these days. The actual engineering behind things like Homepods, AVP, the watch, AirPods, and the Mx silicon is absolutely insane, but it doesn’t inspire users in the UX anymore - it’s all in the background. The AVP is literally the cutting edge of hardware at that price point and all people say about it is that it’s too heavy. The products can’t exist without the engineering, but the users don’t know or care and don’t get the elation and delight that Apple used to be explicitly known for. It’s just “GPU performance and battery life go up and to the right again this year (and sometimes new colors)”. It’s all just scaffolding to play back consumer media (the marginal cost of which asymptotically approaches zero) so they can extract the recurring rents. I wouldn’t be surprised if they ever do make a car that they offer it as lease-only.
devnullbrain 3y ago
A wise man once said: 'If you don't cannibalize yourself, someone else will'

api 3y ago

It's particularly silly given their cash horde that they are not investing. Speaks to a highly conservative corporate culture almost to the level of stockpiling canned food and shotguns.

MiscIdeaMaker99 3y ago

A monopoly of what, exactly?

5350-uiop-1130 3y ago
app store monopoly did you read the article?
- op00to 3y ago
  Wasn’t Apple forced to open up their App Store monopoly?
  - Fischgericht 3y ago
    Yes, and they are not complying but believe they can get away with abusing tiny loopholes. The are sabotaging the whole idea. For example them demanding that app developers have to pay APPLE if they are distributing their apps through a different App store is the exact opposite of the intention of the EU regulations, and plain evil.

rickdeckard 3y ago

I think their idea of the future is very much centered around selling the attention and purchasing power of their customers. That's not meant to be rude "Anti-Apple", that's what their business strategy is obviously based on, including implementing lots of features to prevent their users from voluntarily providing attention or sharing valuable information for free to anyone without Apple's involvement. If that's your strategy, someone forcing you to allow your customers to roam free is quite a big threat. Something you might be willing to spend one of your trillion dollars to fight against. So I believe we haven't seen the peak of this yet...

christkv 3y ago
I think that’s coming fast as slumping sales will put the focus on making more money from services and probably soon selling data

sneak 3y ago

With a soon to be nonexistent middle class in the USA (as well as big growth in comparatively poor countries) getting Apple-style huge profits in the next 2-3 decades is going to be much more about getting $20-50/mo/user in perpetuity and less about selling premium price $1k-3k devices. The AVP (at like version 3 or 4) is the endgame for “Apple should make a TV”. It’s the ultimate passive content consumption device. Apple is now existentially committed to recurring revenue like a crackhead loves crack. It was obvious to me when I bought a $1600 iPhone and within 5 minutes of setting it up it began nagging me for $5 for iCloud storage. When even Google has figured out how to not nickel and dime your most profitable customer segment and Apple hasn’t, you know something’s wrong. Expect one of the most clever companies in the world to put a majority of their mental energy into rentseeking of all kinds, from cloud storage to content rentals (music and tv and movie subscriptions) to AppleCare and every other possible thing (Fitness, Arcade, the perpetual iPhone upgrade thing, etc). It’s going to be subscriptions forever. I expect them to be wildly successful from a revenue standpoint with this plan. Their products (that ugly-ass Ultra watch and tiny bass-free Homepod mini, for example) and nag-filled no-privacy UX have taken a hit and will continue to do so. They’re just consumption devices for Apple Music and iMessage (your attachment history for which drives iCloud storage upgrades). I’m surprised they haven’t figured out a way to charge something for FaceTime yet. This is why they are fighting the DMA - their position as rentseeker is directly responsible for a double digit percentage of the profits of the most valuable company in the world for the next two dozen years. We are talking about literally trillions of dollars hanging in the balance here. How much fight do you think they will bring to bear on this for that much revenue? There is zero product UX that is insanely great coming out of Apple these days. The actual engineering behind things like Homepods, AVP, the watch, AirPods, and the Mx silicon is absolutely insane, but it doesn’t inspire users in the UX anymore - it’s all in the background. The AVP is literally the cutting edge of hardware at that price point and all people say about it is that it’s too heavy. The products can’t exist without the engineering, but the users don’t know or care and don’t get the elation and delight that Apple used to be explicitly known for. It’s just “GPU performance and battery life go up and to the right again this year (and sometimes new colors)”. It’s all just scaffolding to play back consumer media (the marginal cost of which asymptotically approaches zero) so they can extract the recurring rents. I wouldn’t be surprised if they ever do make a car that they offer it as lease-only.

devnullbrain 3y ago

A wise man once said: 'If you don't cannibalize yourself, someone else will'