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The question this leaves unanswered is: why not VS Code? I don't know if MS built VS Code deliberately to compete with Atom, and I don't know if they bought GH

by wk_end 3y ago

The question this leaves unanswered is: why not VS Code? I don't know if MS built VS Code deliberately to compete with Atom, and I don't know if they bought GH to kill Atom. But once they had Atom in their hands, it only made sense to kill off Atom - they're extremely similar. They're both: (1) free Electron-based text editors that (2) are highly extendable in JS, are (3) powerful enough to use as IDEs, but (4) more lightweight than Visual Studio or the JetBrains stuff, and (5) use now-standard UI conventions unlike Vim or Emacs. And using VS Code opens up the ecosystem of the most popular code editor in the world. There's more plugins, more eyes to catch bugs, and one of the richest companies in tech funding improvements on it. With nothing distinguishing it, Pulsar faces an enormous uphill battle if it wants to compete with that. Maybe I'm missing something and Atom/Pulsar have some killer features that VS Code doesn't and won't ever have. Or maybe you just prefer using Pulsar, which...fair enough.

wink 3y ago
Sometimes you simply can't describe how a thing feels subtly wrong. Atom was that for me, I tried it several times and it did nothing like I wanted it. VS Code was somehow different. I'm not the biggest fan but it's my go to editor now for whenever I need to edit 5 lines in some language where I don't have an IDE set up for, and it just works. So I can totally understand why people would feel strongly with Atom vs VSCode. (I've not tried Pulsar, maybe I should)
weikju 3y ago
> Maybe I'm missing something and Atom/Pulsar have some killer features that VS Code doesn't and won't ever have. For one, it's not controlled by Microsoft which has its own plans and designs (lock you into GitHub, their proprietary extensions, telemetry, AI, etc)
- v3ss0n 3y ago
  We have vscodium
  - weikju 3y ago
    Which is still just downstream from VSCode and suffers as a result (eg Remote stuff not available officially for example). PS I do use VScodium, and am glad it's there as an alternative and a developing ecosystem of extensions.. I still always feel the shadow of MS when using it. Kindof like using Chromium as opposed to Chrome. Second edit: I mainly use another editor but sometimes VSCode things are nice so VSCodium is there for me
magnetowasright 3y ago
I used Atom until it was killed. I have tried many times over the last few years to switch to VSCode (for some of the benefits you mentioned) but there's never been a way to configure a few things that are non-negotiable for me. I have really spent way too much time trying to get it set up how I want but it's just not possible from what I can find. I also strongly dislike some of the general approaches to UI/UX and to updates in general. I should probably just get over it and use vim or emacs because they're probably better suited. I use sublime text now. I didn't switch to Pulsar because I wanted something a bit more established or organised for my work computer.
- chrsw 3y ago
  I've switched to Sublime too. They have a Vim mode. It's the best editor I've used so far. Doesn't have all the features of VS Code but for pure editing it's great.

by wk_end 3y ago

wink 3y ago

Sometimes you simply can't describe how a thing feels subtly wrong. Atom was that for me, I tried it several times and it did nothing like I wanted it. VS Code was somehow different. I'm not the biggest fan but it's my go to editor now for whenever I need to edit 5 lines in some language where I don't have an IDE set up for, and it just works. So I can totally understand why people would feel strongly with Atom vs VSCode. (I've not tried Pulsar, maybe I should)

weikju 3y ago

> Maybe I'm missing something and Atom/Pulsar have some killer features that VS Code doesn't and won't ever have. For one, it's not controlled by Microsoft which has its own plans and designs (lock you into GitHub, their proprietary extensions, telemetry, AI, etc)

v3ss0n 3y ago
We have vscodium
- weikju 3y ago
  Which is still just downstream from VSCode and suffers as a result (eg Remote stuff not available officially for example). PS I do use VScodium, and am glad it's there as an alternative and a developing ecosystem of extensions.. I still always feel the shadow of MS when using it. Kindof like using Chromium as opposed to Chrome. Second edit: I mainly use another editor but sometimes VSCode things are nice so VSCodium is there for me

magnetowasright 3y ago

I used Atom until it was killed. I have tried many times over the last few years to switch to VSCode (for some of the benefits you mentioned) but there's never been a way to configure a few things that are non-negotiable for me. I have really spent way too much time trying to get it set up how I want but it's just not possible from what I can find. I also strongly dislike some of the general approaches to UI/UX and to updates in general. I should probably just get over it and use vim or emacs because they're probably better suited. I use sublime text now. I didn't switch to Pulsar because I wanted something a bit more established or organised for my work computer.

chrsw 3y ago
I've switched to Sublime too. They have a Vim mode. It's the best editor I've used so far. Doesn't have all the features of VS Code but for pure editing it's great.