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Maybe stopping the war is the solution?

by DataDaemon 3y ago

readthenotes1 3y ago
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- hypeit 3y ago
  Why would Hamas want to help the Israeli economy?
- majikaja 3y ago
  I think the international community has become numb to the issue of the hostages due to the civilian death toll on the other side being so high
  - bsaul 3y ago
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    - hypeit 3y ago
      I don’t think anyone forgot. A lot of people think Israel caused this with Nakba and their actions since then. I don’t want to start a flamewar, I just don’t think people forgot, they’re just not on Israel’s side.
      - kasey_junk 3y ago
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        hypeit 3y ago
        I don’t believe there was any sexual assault. There’s precedent for this type of armed resistance. The Haitian Slave Revolt and the Pueblo Revolt are both very similar. I think Oct 7th was justified, I don’t want to litigate it here though. This will be my last comment, I just want to state what a lot of people are thinking so it’s not misrepresented. I know many people here won’t agree.
        weatherlite 3y ago
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        kasey_junk 3y ago
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    - jstarfish 3y ago
      Not one single person forgot what triggered it. Most people who aren't bots or shills just disagree that this is at all an appropriate response. Killing civilians in retaliation is not war and no amount of rabbinic rhetoric makes it right. Find a diplomatic solution. It's almost like Israel [leadership] wants another generation of people to hate the Jews. But what do I know of persecution; I'm just a gypsy. Everybody loves when my people come around.
      - tptacek 3y ago
        "Rabbinic rhetoric"?
        hypeit 3y ago
        Things like calling the Palestinians “amalek”, carving the Star of David into a playground with bulldozers, IDF soldiers taking about fulfilling prophecy…
        tptacek 3y ago
        If the claim is that militant Israelis are using religious rhetoric to justify their actions, that seems uncontroversial (though the "Amalek" thing is a misquote, and refers not to Palestinians but to Hamas itself). If instead the idea is that the "rhetoric" of "rabbis" is somehow automatically dehumanizing to Palestinians, that seems like a problematic claim.
        enterprise_cog 3y ago
        You might want to let the IDF know then, cause they have taken the Amalek quote quite literally. “‘I will punish the Amalekites for what they did to Israel when they waylaid them as they came up from Egypt. Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.’”
        3y ago

Maybe stopping the war is the solution?

readthenotes1 3y ago

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hypeit 3y ago
Why would Hamas want to help the Israeli economy?
majikaja 3y ago
I think the international community has become numb to the issue of the hostages due to the civilian death toll on the other side being so high
- bsaul 3y ago
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  - hypeit 3y ago
    I don’t think anyone forgot. A lot of people think Israel caused this with Nakba and their actions since then. I don’t want to start a flamewar, I just don’t think people forgot, they’re just not on Israel’s side.
    - kasey_junk 3y ago
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      - hypeit 3y ago
        I don’t believe there was any sexual assault. There’s precedent for this type of armed resistance. The Haitian Slave Revolt and the Pueblo Revolt are both very similar. I think Oct 7th was justified, I don’t want to litigate it here though. This will be my last comment, I just want to state what a lot of people are thinking so it’s not misrepresented. I know many people here won’t agree.
        weatherlite 3y ago
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        kasey_junk 3y ago
        [flagged]
  - jstarfish 3y ago
    Not one single person forgot what triggered it. Most people who aren't bots or shills just disagree that this is at all an appropriate response. Killing civilians in retaliation is not war and no amount of rabbinic rhetoric makes it right. Find a diplomatic solution. It's almost like Israel [leadership] wants another generation of people to hate the Jews. But what do I know of persecution; I'm just a gypsy. Everybody loves when my people come around.
    - tptacek 3y ago
      "Rabbinic rhetoric"?
      - hypeit 3y ago
        Things like calling the Palestinians “amalek”, carving the Star of David into a playground with bulldozers, IDF soldiers taking about fulfilling prophecy…
        tptacek 3y ago
        If the claim is that militant Israelis are using religious rhetoric to justify their actions, that seems uncontroversial (though the "Amalek" thing is a misquote, and refers not to Palestinians but to Hamas itself). If instead the idea is that the "rhetoric" of "rabbis" is somehow automatically dehumanizing to Palestinians, that seems like a problematic claim.
        enterprise_cog 3y ago
        You might want to let the IDF know then, cause they have taken the Amalek quote quite literally. “‘I will punish the Amalekites for what they did to Israel when they waylaid them as they came up from Egypt. Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.’”
        3y ago