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Not aware of those "lots of people", but all I can say it's the node advantage it's very real, at least it has been because TSMC hasn't really made any major mi
by PedroBatista 3y ago
Not aware of those "lots of people", but all I can say it's the node advantage it's very real, at least it has been because TSMC hasn't really made any major mistakes in the last few years.
But real performance improvements post M1 didn't really match expectations. IMO the expectations Apple stated/implied in their usual marketing incantations are partly to blame, but they were the ones pumping the hype, so it's completely fair to charge them for that.
Compute performance improvements of ~30% are OK and in line with everybody else, meaning they are dealing with the same reality as other companies, hence the "let down"
- caycep 3y agoIgnoring the fact that while doing that, there also happens to be a near 4090-level GPU and NPU and integrated memory on the M series chips on a die of approximately the same size...
- adgjlsfhk1 3y ago[flagged]
- xcv123 3y agoRTX 4090 has more than double the performance of the M2 Ultra https://wccftech.com/apple-m2-ultra-soc-isnt-faster-than-amd-intel-last-year-desktop-cpus-50-slower-than-nvidia-rtx-4080/ https://wccftech.com/apple-m2-ultra-soc-isnt-faster-than-amd...
- techie128 3y agoYou're comparing a 600W system (450W TDP GPU + 150W TDP Intel Core i9-13900KS) with a 90W chip (CPU, GPU & NPU combined). You don't see anything remotely problematic with that comparison?
- caycep 3y agoyeah, basically I think perspective is important to point out, when people are promoting the narrative "AMD has caught up to M1" but ignoring the fact it's not an Apples to Apples comparison. I'm sure 4090 can play cyberpunk with more FPS. And sure, I think the M series CPUs can eke out more single core performance if they devoted all 140 m2 of the die to CPU. But that's not what the M series chips are. Also, there's benchmarks like these: https://owehrens.com/whisper-nvidia-rtx-4090-vs-m1pro-with-mlx/ https://owehrens.com/whisper-nvidia-rtx-4090-vs-m1pro-with-m...
- xcv123 3y agoNo problem with the comparison. I was not comparing power efficiency. We all know that Apple prioritize efficiency. Since power consumption vs performance is non-linear it's possible that the Intel+Nvidia combo would have roughly similar efficiency as M2 at lower wattage, although it certainly won't beat the M2 at 90 watts.