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Imagine having latents on posters, poster-persona-moods, posts, raters, rater-persona-moods, ratings, latent space curations, and user preferences and moods. U

Imagine having latents on posters, poster-persona-moods, posts, raters, rater-persona-moods, ratings, latent space curations, and user preferences and moods. User: "AI, what's my current reading status?" AI:"We're on your EveningSurfMood2, emphasizing StuffFromFriends, and your EclecticTopicsLarge (with Dang's HighQ Discussion v3, Alice12's Clueful Author Making Coherent Argument Filter, and hugging's UnusuallyInsightful51)." ... Later while reading, AI: "We've received a rating request from Mastatron: Is this post underappreciating the opportunity for rich human-ai computation hybrids at scale?" User: "Oh yeah".

malfist 3y ago
I can't for the life of me figure out what you're trying to say
- Kye 3y ago
  It's a bunch of AI/ML/LLM jargon. I know what all the individual words and concepts mean and still have no idea.
  - rossdavidh 3y ago
    Pretty much like AI, then. "Are you being ironic?" "I don't even know."
- mncharity 3y ago
  One builds systems out of humans, ML, and other computation. Ideally integrating the strengths of each, and doing fine-grained mutual compensation for the weaknesses of each. For instance, automated task management which delegates easy cases to ML, and orchestrates humans for harder cases. When a post is rated, a system ideally learns about the post, the poster, the rater, and the rating question. The candy machine which bribed undergrads to redundantly grade CS exams, the responses giving insight into the grader, the gradee, the exam, and the instruction. People are multifaceted. I'm interested in someone's apps, but not their cat. In <wizzy biology researcher> when they are writing about their research focus, not on their gone-full-nutter <other biology topic>. It would be nice to be able to stream one's own diverse interests, without burdening people who wish to follow only one of them. Sites, group moderation, and thumb ratings, are units of very very very course grain selection. Imagine tiktoc or netflix with everyone sees the same thing, one size fits all, and if you want something else, go somewhere else. I don't even want the same thing from hn comments at different times of day. Our capabilities are oddly impoverished - even last-century usenet had "I don't want to see any more comments from this person". Skimming hn comments for ones which match my preferences of the moment, when feasible to delegate to personalized automation, the system design could facilitate that. User customization could be open, transparent, and collaborative. Not "you looked at this once weeks ago, so here's more, and you can't stop me". Composably collaborative - not a swamp of manually-viewed isolated playlists, but accessibly searchable/queryable - intersect playlists which include this video. Beyond "this person does good videos", to "this person does good video ratings", to "these people are good raters", to "these people do good ratings of raters"... for your personalized interests of the moment. It's late, but hopefully those are clarified highlights.
  - nradov 3y ago
    Sounds expensive. I don't see how a platform for user generated content such as X could do that profitably given that the expected value of each user is so low.
    - mncharity 3y ago
      Certainly a high system complexity cost. But consider all the social costs avoided. The burden of moderation and policy fights. The non-satisficing silos - "not here, but sort of there, but not really, want a little of both, so there's nowhere really, too bad, it would be nice". A wikipedia without deletionist-vs-inclusionist conflict, because both are supported, and fine grained - "my wp? inclusionist on programming languages, and deletionist on popular culture". What if X could offer advertisers: everyone is on X all the time, so of course there's lots of ugly crazy, that's people; but you have excellent control of to whom, and in what contexts, your ads are shown. If you want your ads only on X/Mormon, X/PlumTV, or X/QAnon, but never near pets talking like a pirate, we've got you. Boycotting X infrastructure would be like boycotting the internet or print - not the right level of granularity. Whoever or whatever you wish to boycott, X is there for you - X/BoycottX is quite popular
FridgeSeal 3y ago
That sounds genuinely hideous. Is this like, meant to be a good feature???
- mncharity 3y ago
  Not wonderful UX, but intended to illustrate underlying capabilities. A collaborative composable community ecosystem of recommendation, vs status-quo black-box recommendation engines and vote-with-your-feet "personalization".

malfist 3y ago

I can't for the life of me figure out what you're trying to say

Kye 3y ago
It's a bunch of AI/ML/LLM jargon. I know what all the individual words and concepts mean and still have no idea.
- rossdavidh 3y ago
  Pretty much like AI, then. "Are you being ironic?" "I don't even know."
mncharity 3y ago
One builds systems out of humans, ML, and other computation. Ideally integrating the strengths of each, and doing fine-grained mutual compensation for the weaknesses of each. For instance, automated task management which delegates easy cases to ML, and orchestrates humans for harder cases. When a post is rated, a system ideally learns about the post, the poster, the rater, and the rating question. The candy machine which bribed undergrads to redundantly grade CS exams, the responses giving insight into the grader, the gradee, the exam, and the instruction. People are multifaceted. I'm interested in someone's apps, but not their cat. In <wizzy biology researcher> when they are writing about their research focus, not on their gone-full-nutter <other biology topic>. It would be nice to be able to stream one's own diverse interests, without burdening people who wish to follow only one of them. Sites, group moderation, and thumb ratings, are units of very very very course grain selection. Imagine tiktoc or netflix with everyone sees the same thing, one size fits all, and if you want something else, go somewhere else. I don't even want the same thing from hn comments at different times of day. Our capabilities are oddly impoverished - even last-century usenet had "I don't want to see any more comments from this person". Skimming hn comments for ones which match my preferences of the moment, when feasible to delegate to personalized automation, the system design could facilitate that. User customization could be open, transparent, and collaborative. Not "you looked at this once weeks ago, so here's more, and you can't stop me". Composably collaborative - not a swamp of manually-viewed isolated playlists, but accessibly searchable/queryable - intersect playlists which include this video. Beyond "this person does good videos", to "this person does good video ratings", to "these people are good raters", to "these people do good ratings of raters"... for your personalized interests of the moment. It's late, but hopefully those are clarified highlights.
- nradov 3y ago
  Sounds expensive. I don't see how a platform for user generated content such as X could do that profitably given that the expected value of each user is so low.
  - mncharity 3y ago
    Certainly a high system complexity cost. But consider all the social costs avoided. The burden of moderation and policy fights. The non-satisficing silos - "not here, but sort of there, but not really, want a little of both, so there's nowhere really, too bad, it would be nice". A wikipedia without deletionist-vs-inclusionist conflict, because both are supported, and fine grained - "my wp? inclusionist on programming languages, and deletionist on popular culture". What if X could offer advertisers: everyone is on X all the time, so of course there's lots of ugly crazy, that's people; but you have excellent control of to whom, and in what contexts, your ads are shown. If you want your ads only on X/Mormon, X/PlumTV, or X/QAnon, but never near pets talking like a pirate, we've got you. Boycotting X infrastructure would be like boycotting the internet or print - not the right level of granularity. Whoever or whatever you wish to boycott, X is there for you - X/BoycottX is quite popular

FridgeSeal 3y ago

That sounds genuinely hideous. Is this like, meant to be a good feature???

mncharity 3y ago
Not wonderful UX, but intended to illustrate underlying capabilities. A collaborative composable community ecosystem of recommendation, vs status-quo black-box recommendation engines and vote-with-your-feet "personalization".