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Cosmic Desktop Is Slated to Debut with Pop _OS 24.04 LTS
- khaki54 3y agoSystem76 seems highly competent and ethical so this is good news
- tuananh 3y agothis is their own DE written in Rust.
- deaddodo 3y agoHonestly, I just wish COSMIC was less ugly. But that's just a personal preference thing. If it helps productivity and shaking up the Linux environment, that's always a plus.
- fbdab103 3y agoI don't know about ugly, but the padding in those screenshots is insanely large. Hopefully that is customizable.
- mmstick76 3y agoInterface density is configurable
- ahmedfromtunis 3y agoI was thinking the same thing! The huge padding is the thing I hate the most about Gnome, and if Cosmic will have the same issue, well, then that's a bammer. With Gnome, however, there are extensions and themes that allow to alleviate the problem, even if partially. And I don't think Cosmic will have any of those on day one (if they there's no customization built-in, that is).
- panick21_ 3y agoWith Cosmic they very much want customization. That was one of their primary goals. The very reason they build Cosmic in the first place was because Gnome made it much harder to costumize and broke all their existing plugins. They are talking about Cosmic being able to serve as a great base for costume experiences. I am not sure if they have reach that goal, but that is their goal. With Gnome, they are very willing to break all plugins at all times. They simply do not care for stability of plugins, its a nonissue for them. In Gnome plugins are JS application all running in the same namespace, a single crash of those can take down everything. In Cosmic these are Rust application running in different namespaces.
- aNoob7000 3y agoHonest question - What does Cosmic have over Gnome desktop? I'm relatively new to Linux. I'm running Ubuntu 22.04 and find it meets my computing needs.
- Inityx 3y agoParagraph 2 of the article describes why. Supplemental reading: https://medium.com/@fulalas/gnome-mess-is-not-an-accident-4e301032670c https://medium.com/@fulalas/gnome-mess-is-not-an-accident-4e...
- aNoob7000 3y agoI agree with some of the performance issues mentioned by the writer, but nothing mentioned stops me from doing my work. I hope Cosmic helps improve the Linux desktop ecosystem.
- BadHumans 3y agoIf Cosmic creates a more cohesive Linux experience with fewer bugs then I'm glad they are doing it. Nothing stops me from doing my work but many bugs slow me down and otherwise ruin my experience.
- petepete 3y agoIt's worth mentioning that GNOME receives an enormous amount of hate but it's still the most widely used DE on Linux by a mile and the vast, vast, vast majority of people get along just fine.
- yjftsjthsd-h 3y ago> it's still the most widely used DE on Linux by a mile How would we be able to tell that?
- a_vanderbilt 3y agoIt's the default on Ubuntu and RHEL, which are the two most popular enterprise distros. Ubuntu is also the most popular consumer Linux distro.
- kylecazar 3y agoThe official release with 24.04 is what they are considering an alpha, I believe. It'll be quite some time before it's "stable".
- Vinnl 3y agoHuh, I'd swear I'd seen that too, but looking at the alpha blog post [1], they do indeed say: > The official release of COSMIC DE will debut on Pop!_OS 24.04 LTS, which will be based on Ubuntu 24.04 LTS. Running and testing on 24.04 gets us closer to a final, polished release. I'm assuming, but not sure, that 24.04 will be released in April, 24, though its version might just be a reference to the Ubuntu version it's based on - it would be pretty quickly after the Ubuntu release. Although the distinction between "official release" and "final, polished release" might indeed mean that the 24.04 release would still be alpha? [1] https://blog.system76.com/post/closing-in-on-a-cosmic-alpha https://blog.system76.com/post/closing-in-on-a-cosmic-alpha
- e12e 3y agohttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/noble https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/noble
- indigodaddy 3y agoGeezus H the ads on that site
- dartharva 3y agoGeo-blocked for India. Blanket-banning an entire country's IP ranges is such a lazy and obnoxious practice, the webmasters should be ashamed of this.
- gkbrk 3y agoIf the ISPs do their job and handle abuse emails, less people would be blocking IP ranges like this. There's a reason in IP abuse or spam databases, certain countries light up like a christmas tree and others are not used for these purposes. If you do nothing to be a good citizen of the Internet, all the bad citizens are attracted to you as an ISP. You shouldn't even need to email the ISP for abuse, they should just detect it themselves. But even taking actions on the emails seems too difficult for them, so I doubt we'll see anything pro-active.
- dartharva 3y agoWhat kind of abuse threats does a static site showing a bunch of ad-ridden articles get that isn't already covered in basic Cloudflare filtering?
- moonscape68 3y agoMy guess is that India has been blocked so that the website owner is able to join a particular ad network (in this case Mediavine) which pays well but requires primarily US traffic. So it’s easier to just block the visitors that are preventing you from joining. Ruthless but commercial decision.
- betaby 3y ago... and yet most of the spam is originated from US IP addresses.
- gkbrk 3y agoChecking the revenue analytics for my blog. US visitors made up 66.13% of my revenue, with 14% of spam coming from US IPs. India made up 0.14% of my revenue, with 5% of spam coming from Indian IPs. Russia made up 0% of my revenue, with 21% of spam coming from Russian IPs. I don't do geo-blocking on my website since my spam filter catches pretty much everything these bots are spewing out, but I can certainly see why someone might want to do it. Especially if they're wasting time/money dealing with spam or automated attacks.
- dartharva 3y agoBetter source: https://blog.system76.com/post/closing-in-on-a-cosmic-alpha https://blog.system76.com/post/closing-in-on-a-cosmic-alpha
- aitchnyu 3y agoThanks, Linuxiac Cloudflare apparently blocks Indian IPs.
- vlod 3y agoI'm hopeful that everyone here that loves rust will have an outlet to start creating GUI apps for linux (that isn't gnome).
- cocoa19 3y agoMake them with what GUI library? GPUI is not mature yet, so I wouldn’t use it for anything serious, and Qt bindings support is not great.
- karthikiyengar 3y agohttps://iced.rs/ https://iced.rs/ This is what Cosmic is written in.
- cocoa19 3y agoWow. Iced is also not mature, but being backed by an important project such as Pop OS gives me hope it will stick around. Maybe it’s time to dive into Rust with Iced, and port over a Qt project I’ve been working on.
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- vlod 3y agoOne of the things I find interesting is that it won't necessarily be tied just to popos. I believe other distros are looking into it. (Can't find references now) If anyone is interested in the 'why', here's an old (1 year ago) thread [0] explaining why they are moving away from GTK. [0]: https://www.reddit.com/r/pop_os/comments/xs87ed/is_iced_replacing_gtk_apps_for_the_new_cosmic/ https://www.reddit.com/r/pop_os/comments/xs87ed/is_iced_repl...