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There was a good discussion on Reddit about it. I don’t have the link but it should be easy to find. Annual meetings are apparently organized by local groups w
by zhdc1 3y ago
There was a good discussion on Reddit about it. I don’t have the link but it should be easy to find.
Annual meetings are apparently organized by local groups who lobby/compete with one another. China has a very large SciFi readership and the group from Chengdu was very active when it came to lobbying and gathering votes. It wasn’t until later that people started to realize this may not have been the best decision, e.g. with visa applications and so on.
As far as the actual scandal, there’s also discussion about whether there was any actual government intervention or if this was mainly the result of self-sensorship.
- themacguffinman 3y agoThe risk of government intervention (read: penalties for everyone involved) is what drives self-censorship. There's no meaningful distinction between the two.
- dkjaudyeqooe 3y ago> read: penalties for everyone involved Read: being denied an exit visa, arbitrary detention, torture, being disappeared, being executed. These are all things that the Chinese government does as a matter of course. For instance, this Australian woman spent 3 years in detention and was tortured for releasing a government report a few minutes early: https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/oct/17/like-being-buried-alive-australian-journalist-cheng-lei-on-life-in-a-chinese-prison https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/oct/17/like-...
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- saagarjha 3y agoLook, I hate pulling out the fallacies list, but this is literally the dictionary definition of tu quoque. Nobody mentioned the US here, and it's not relevant to the discussion.
- SR2Z 3y agoBeing held without legal representation or fair trial is extremely uncommon in the West and normally reserved for military custody. China is a state with a poor human rights record and unlike the US will systematically deny people basic human rights for entirely political reasons. I can't even begin to understand your comment; obviously Edward Snowden fled to Russia, because if he fled to a country with an extradition treaty with the US he'd be extradited. I can't see a white, English-speaking dude trying to defect to Cuba or China if given the choice. The US is not perfect, but it's leaps and bounds better than the PRC when it comes to human rights. FFS, the latest party line from the CCP is that human rights are not universal, but rather a Western-centric idea that is being unjustly pushed on the world!
- seanmcdirmid 3y ago> As far as the actual scandal, there’s also discussion about whether there was any actual government intervention or if this was mainly the result of self-sensorship. China’s whole censorship legal framework is based on self censorship, so there would not be much difference.