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Couldn't agree more. I bought an AVP on day one to be used -exclusively- as a monitor extender for coding. It's untenable. The only way I could avoid signifi

by mvkel 3y ago

Couldn't agree more. I bought an AVP on day one to be used -exclusively- as a monitor extender for coding. It's untenable. The only way I could avoid significant neck/back pain from the weight was to sit in a reclining chair. That wouldn't be a bad coding setup, but my eye strain was pretty significant, too. I ended up returning mine. This is a necessary 1.0 to build out the app ecosystem, etc. but it's absolutely not ready for full-time use.

dkjaudyeqooe 3y ago
> The only way I could avoid significant neck/back pain from the weight was to sit in a reclining chair Lying on a bed would also do the trick.
- nomel 3y ago
  I've had some great coding sessions on my ceiling, with my quest 3.
  - glinkot 3y ago
    Interesting! What software did you use for that? And how did you set your keyboard up?
    - nomel 3y ago
      Immersed VR, connected to my MacBook over the network. Used a bluetooth keyboard (with a crappy integrated trackpad) on my MacBook for mouse. I have an IR floodlight, that just barely works in the dark, for the tracking.
- jazzyjackson 3y ago
  doing some pushups also helps
jliptzin 3y ago
I almost returned mine for that exact reason until I used it in bed before going to sleep. I have never fallen asleep faster. I know it sounds really strange that a computer strapped to my face helps me sleep but I guess something about the whole immersive environment really helps. I also don’t feel the pressure on my head when I’m lying down.
- soneca 3y ago
  Are you able to stay completely still with your face pointing up while sleeping the whole night?? It hurts (and wake me up) in just a few minutes if I happen to fall sleep with my regular glasses on.
  - jliptzin 3y ago
    Usually I wake up at some point in the middle of the night, I am a very light sleeper. At that point I just take it off and fall back asleep. I usually don’t even remember doing that by the morning.
- smoldesu 3y ago
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  - tempaccount420 3y ago
    You're very smug but it's obviously not the same experience.
    - smoldesu 3y ago
      Will you notice the difference when you're asleep?
- mvkel 3y ago
  Makes sense to me! There are so many useful edge cases that justify its use. Watching high def content alone is a pretty strong justification.
cubefox 3y ago
The irony here is that the unusual weight of the headset was completely avoidable. The headset has a heavy aluminium frame, which is a terrible idea that serves no practical purpose except of an aesthetic one. No other headset does this. For comparison, the Quest 3 is significantly lighter despite including a battery.
- justinclift 3y ago
  Isn't aluminium better for longevity/reliability?
  - cubefox 3y ago
    Only if resistance to significant mechanical stress is required. Which isn't at all necessary for VR headsets, as others use plastic and have no mechanical issues with it.
    - Fluorescence 3y ago
      My father has some plastic camping dinnerware that has been heavily used since the 60's. It's been wildly abused around the world, up mountains, on beaches, by generations of family, kids and bitey babies. It's not even scratched. I have no idea what it's made out of but it's super impressive. I try not to think about because of whatever the biosafety standards were back then... but the lack of visible damage gives me hope not much of it has been ingested at least.
  - darkerside 3y ago
    Seems a poor compromise for a 1.0 product that will certainly be obsolete in the next 5 years
  - JeremyNT 3y ago
    Maybe... for the stuff that is actually made of aluminum. But I have a plastic VR headset and I'm pretty sure an impact bad enough to damage the plastic care is also bad enough to damage the electronics, which are going to be way more costly to repair. I'd take a plastic headset personally assuming it was lighter. Anything to save weight in this product category.
whoopsie 3y ago
Sounds like a fit issue. I code all day. Recliner, couch, standing. Mac link at 5k emulation. Apple assigned me 21w, but I found it unusable. 36w put weight on outer cheekbones and was finally wearable. Removing the light seal and using some pads as spacers is how I use it now. Larger FOV. A bit weight and less cantilever

by mvkel 3y ago

dkjaudyeqooe 3y ago

> The only way I could avoid significant neck/back pain from the weight was to sit in a reclining chair Lying on a bed would also do the trick.

nomel 3y ago
I've had some great coding sessions on my ceiling, with my quest 3.
- glinkot 3y ago
  Interesting! What software did you use for that? And how did you set your keyboard up?
  - nomel 3y ago
    Immersed VR, connected to my MacBook over the network. Used a bluetooth keyboard (with a crappy integrated trackpad) on my MacBook for mouse. I have an IR floodlight, that just barely works in the dark, for the tracking.
jazzyjackson 3y ago
doing some pushups also helps

jliptzin 3y ago

I almost returned mine for that exact reason until I used it in bed before going to sleep. I have never fallen asleep faster. I know it sounds really strange that a computer strapped to my face helps me sleep but I guess something about the whole immersive environment really helps. I also don’t feel the pressure on my head when I’m lying down.

soneca 3y ago
Are you able to stay completely still with your face pointing up while sleeping the whole night?? It hurts (and wake me up) in just a few minutes if I happen to fall sleep with my regular glasses on.
- jliptzin 3y ago
  Usually I wake up at some point in the middle of the night, I am a very light sleeper. At that point I just take it off and fall back asleep. I usually don’t even remember doing that by the morning.
smoldesu 3y ago
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- tempaccount420 3y ago
  You're very smug but it's obviously not the same experience.
  - smoldesu 3y ago
    Will you notice the difference when you're asleep?
mvkel 3y ago
Makes sense to me! There are so many useful edge cases that justify its use. Watching high def content alone is a pretty strong justification.

cubefox 3y ago

The irony here is that the unusual weight of the headset was completely avoidable. The headset has a heavy aluminium frame, which is a terrible idea that serves no practical purpose except of an aesthetic one. No other headset does this. For comparison, the Quest 3 is significantly lighter despite including a battery.

justinclift 3y ago
Isn't aluminium better for longevity/reliability?
- cubefox 3y ago
  Only if resistance to significant mechanical stress is required. Which isn't at all necessary for VR headsets, as others use plastic and have no mechanical issues with it.
  - Fluorescence 3y ago
    My father has some plastic camping dinnerware that has been heavily used since the 60's. It's been wildly abused around the world, up mountains, on beaches, by generations of family, kids and bitey babies. It's not even scratched. I have no idea what it's made out of but it's super impressive. I try not to think about because of whatever the biosafety standards were back then... but the lack of visible damage gives me hope not much of it has been ingested at least.
- darkerside 3y ago
  Seems a poor compromise for a 1.0 product that will certainly be obsolete in the next 5 years
- JeremyNT 3y ago
  Maybe... for the stuff that is actually made of aluminum. But I have a plastic VR headset and I'm pretty sure an impact bad enough to damage the plastic care is also bad enough to damage the electronics, which are going to be way more costly to repair. I'd take a plastic headset personally assuming it was lighter. Anything to save weight in this product category.

whoopsie 3y ago

Sounds like a fit issue. I code all day. Recliner, couch, standing. Mac link at 5k emulation. Apple assigned me 21w, but I found it unusable. 36w put weight on outer cheekbones and was finally wearable. Removing the light seal and using some pads as spacers is how I use it now. Larger FOV. A bit weight and less cantilever